Finally we have a LEGAL directive on how to deal with armed citizens.

[WestSider]

Good information!

 

[lonehoosier]

I think you're right, I may be thinking of the caselaw on seizing a firearm. Caselaw for stopping one for OCing hasn't neen made, yet.

Yes there is case law for seizing a firearm. I'm drawing a blank on which one it is, Richerson or Washington vs Indiana.

 

[SteveM4A1]

Yes there is case law for seizing a firearm. I'm drawing a blank on which one it is, Richerson or Washington vs Indiana.

Malone v State slso

 

[lonehoosier]

Yes there is case law for seizing a firearm. I'm drawing a blank on which one it is, Richerson or Washington vs Indiana.

Malone v State slso

Thanks

 

[Frank_N_Stein]

Yes there is case law for seizing a firearm. I'm drawing a blank on which one it is, Richerson or Washington vs Indiana.

Malone v. State is the one I was thinking of.

 

[lonehoosier]

Malone v. State is the one I was thinking of.

Yes that's the one that talks about the seizur of a firearm. It has nothing to do with stop a OCer to ask to see LTCH. Again I just want to make sure people that don't live in Indy this does not apply to them.

 

[SteveM4A1]

Yes that's the one that talks about the seizur of a firearm. It has nothing to do with stop a OCer to ask to see LTCH. Again I just want to make sure people that don't live in Indy this does not apply to them.

But we are on our way to Constitutional Carry We all just need to press our state legislators hard. INGO can be a very powerful lobbying group if everyone tries.

 

[JMoses]

An LEO still has the ability to stop and ask an open carrier for the LTCH.

 

[lonehoosier]

But we are on our way to Constitutional Carry We all just need to press our state legislators hard. INGO can be a very powerful lobbying group if everyone tries.

We are closer then ever before but I think it will be some time.

 

[Denny347]

An LEO still has the ability to stop and ask an open carrier for the LTCH.

Voluntary stop

 

[ArcadiaGP]

An LEO still has the ability to stop and ask an open carrier for the LTCH.

I wish we could remove their ability to try and make up law on the spot, and make the OCer uncomfortable in the process.

LEO OC opinions should remain off-duty.

 

[JMoses]

I wish we could remove their ability to try and make up law on the spot, and make the OCer uncomfortable in the process.

LEO OC opinions should remain off-duty.

It doesn't have anything to do with LEO opinion. Carrying a handgun in Indiana concealed or open without a LTCH is illegal. The officer can still approach and ask, when seeing someone carrying, no matter what IMPD policy is.

 

[ArcadiaGP]

It doesn't have anything to do with LEO opinion. Carrying a handgun in Indiana concealed or open without a LTCH is illegal. The officer can still approach and ask, when seeing someone carrying, no matter what IMPD policy is.

Unfortunately, after flashing the pink, the conversation doesn't always end.

 

[JMoses]

Unfortunately, after flashing the pink, the conversation doesn't always end.

I agree, you are correct there.

 

[Frank_N_Stein]

Yes that's the one that talks about the seizur of a firearm. It has nothing to do with stop a OCer to ask to see LTCH. Again I just want to make sure people that don't live in Indy this does not apply to them.

Like I said, I was mistaken. Maybe you can point that out again.

 

[Denny347]

Like I said, I was mistaken. Maybe you can point that out again.

 

[Booya]

An LEO still has the ability to stop and ask an open carrier for the LTCH.

Voluntary stop

I wish we could remove their ability to try and make up law on the spot, and make the OCer uncomfortable in the process.

LEO OC opinions should remain off-duty.

It doesn't have anything to do with LEO opinion. Carrying a handgun in Indiana concealed or open without a LTCH is illegal. The officer can still approach and ask, when seeing someone carrying, no matter what IMPD policy is.

Unfortunately, after flashing the pink, the conversation doesn't always end.

I agree, you are correct there.

Like I said, I was mistaken. Maybe you can point that out again.

I guess I'm confused. I fully understand the laws in IN and requiring a LTCH, but the letter posted in OP never states that this is IMPD policy, but rather, legally (absent PC) OC in and of itself is not a reason to stop. When I read this I was actually standing next to an IMPD officer and I told him I was surprised by what I was reading. Obviously, I thought LEO could just stop and ask for pink since OC'ing alone was PC, but the letter states otherwise. And as Frank said it would have to be a voluntary stop, meaning I could just keep walking. I probably wouldn't do that, but according to the letter I can. The letter is pretty clear this is the law not a dept policy.

 

[Dead Duck]

Unfortunately, after flashing the pink, the conversation doesn't always end.

Usually after flashing my pink, the conversation ends immediately.

 

[lonehoosier]

Like I said, I was mistaken. Maybe you can point that out again.

WOW I don't know where this came from. Sorry for the butthurt.

 

[SteveM4A1]

There seems to be some confusion here...