Did world war 3 just start?

[mrjarrell]

Anybody think Putin is doing this because he's still pissed about the Russian hockey team not getting the gold?

People have done dumber things for stupider reasons.

 

[9mmfan]

Europe's collective armys would get it's **s handed to them if they went into the Ukraine so everyones looking to us. Fat chance.

 

[smokingman]

Try this thread. It's pretty timeline efficient and there's no mention on neo-Nazis.

https://www.indianagunowners.com/fo...on/334598-things-picking-back-up-ukraine.html

Svoboda and the Right Sector are the Neo Nazi parties in Ukraine.Google US supported Neo Nazi party in Ukraine and you will find plenty of history along with calls for neo nazi supporters the world over to aid the new Ukrainian government.

 

[Kutnupe14]

Try this thread. It's pretty timeline efficient and there's no mention on neo-Nazis.

https://www.indianagunowners.com/fo...on/334598-things-picking-back-up-ukraine.html

I was going to wait until I see how thus developed, but the protesters were littered with large amounts of ultra-conservatives. I don't know if I'd call the neo-Nazi, but they don't particularly care for Jews, and Jews in Kiev have been on high-alert.

 

[smokingman]

I was going to wait until I see how thus developed, but the protesters were littered with large amounts of ultra-conservatives. I don't know if I'd call the neo-Nazi, but they don't particularly care for Jews, and Jews in Kiev have been on high-alert.

Chief Rabbi of Ukraine Urged Jews to Flee Kiev After Attack on Students | Jewish & Israel News Algemeiner.com

 

[mrjarrell]

While I don't doubt that there were some rightwingers involved in the recent overthrow of Yanukovich's government, I doubt they are the ones currently in control. They, like many opportunists, see a chance to advance their warped agenda and have taken to the streets alongside the good people of the Ukraine. Same thing happens here, just ask Ron Paul.

 

[printcraft]

Europe's collective armys would get it's **s handed to them if they went into the Ukraine so everyones looking to us. Fat chance.

How about the great satan sit this one out?

 

[9mmfan]

How about the great satan sit this one out?

With Obummer in charge, we'll do exactly nothing.

 

[printcraft]

With Obummer in charge, we'll do exactly nothing.

I hope so. That ass clown and his ass clown cronies have made an absolute mess of foreign policy from day one.
They are totally out of their depth in all issues.

 

[smokingman]

While I don't doubt that there were some rightwingers involved in the recent overthrow of Yanukovich's government, I doubt they are the ones currently in control. They, like many opportunists, see a chance to advance their warped agenda and have taken to the streets alongside the good people of the Ukraine. Same thing happens here, just ask Ron Paul.

US Sponsored ?Democracy?: A Tale of Two Protests. Ukraine and Thailand | Global Research

Most all of the protestors where Svoboda,or New Nazi party.Plenty of history and you can clearly see their flag is present at all of the protests.The third party(and minority of the protestors)was the Fatherland party,also a neo nazi group.

Oleksandr Turchynov(the now west supported president)is the head of the Svoboda party.

A little more back ground,and John Mcain's photo op with some neo nazi's a few weeks ago in Keiv that caused outrage in the Jewish community.
http://www.businessinsider.com/john-mccain-meets-oleh-tyahnybok-in-ukraine-2013-12


McCain has sometimes revealed a simplistic, Cold War viewpoint of Russia. You have to wonder if, by going to Ukraine and standing on stage with a man accused of being an anti-Semitic neo-Nazi, he may have shown that trait again.

 

[ArcadiaGP]

Surprising twist... Rand Paul came out and suggested punishing Russia for their actions today in Ukraine. Very odd for him.

 

[Hotdoger]

Officers Of 76th Russian Shock Troops Division Operating In Ukraine

Officers Of 76th Russian Shock Troops Division Operating In Ukraine | Zero Hedge

 

[9mmfan]

NBC news top story is this. For sure a Russian invasion. I think they probably just want to secure their main sea port.

 

[BehindBlueI's]

Why would we go into Ukraine? We don't care. If Russia eats the whole pie, we'll say "No, bad Russia, stop that" and it'll be the end of it.

Russia isn't as scary as you think. One of their biggest military successes in the cold war was convincing the US that their military had a lot more capabilities than it did. The whole LSD/hypnosis/sensory deprivation/mind control thing the CIA worked on? Its because the Russians tricked us into thinking they had it working. Nearly all of our estimates on the ranges of their missiles and bombers turned out to be exaggerated. The Soviet army was short range and better suited for defense than offense.

This may be the kick off of a frontier war and a civil war, its definitely the early stages of a failed state, but WWIII? Nah.

 

[ArcadiaGP]

So, ****ing tanks:

 

[printcraft]

So, ****ing tanks:

What kind of tanks are those? The turret is clear at the back. Self propelled artillery?


EDIT: Yep, I think so.
http://www.armscontrol.ru/atmtc/arms_systems/land/artillery/self_propelled/self_prop_art_mortars.htm

 

[Kutnupe14]

What kind of tanks are those? The turret is clear at the back. Self propelled artillery?

I think it's more of a tracked artillery piece, than a tank.

 

[ArcadiaGP]

I think it's more of a tracked artillery piece, than a tank.

???

File:2S1 Gvozdika.jpg - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[K_W]

2S1 Gvozdika - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Ukraine has 600 or so of them.

 

[Kutnupe14]

???

File:2S1 Gvozdika.jpg - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Yeah, it's not a tank. That's a self propelled, or tracked, artillery piece. There's a difference, those things don't tango with dedicated tanks and expect to come out the better.