Detroit SWAT case gets uglier

[WWIIIDefender]

Homeowner Says Police Unnecessarily Shot Dog - News Story - WNEM Saginaw
Its an everyday accurance now.

 

[Son of Liberty]

Wow its a sad day when a litte girl is cut down, and actually have people on here trying to blame other people outside of the trigger man. The cop obiviously couldnt handle this situation and needed more training. Thats just if what the cops say is correct, if they shot into the house from outside, its murder period, and there is no excuse, how can anyone try to come up with an excuse for killing a little girl. If it was my kid, it would be a bad day for that PD.

 

[Manan]

Jack booted thugs. The constitution is hanging by a thread. The founding fathers tried soo hard to protect us from this. I'm sick.

 

[SemperFiUSMC]

"The police department told WNEM TV5 that they are open to meet with Rhule to discuss covering the veterinary bills. "

Wow, that's awful nice of them, after they shot the dog and everything. What do you bet that it comes with an agreement to keep her mouth shut about the incident?

 

[irishfan]

If the tape shows swat lobbing in flash bangs and then fireing into the home do you really think we will ever see that tape. Not a chance just like we will never see the video tapes from the pentagon plane crash and we will never see the tapes from the OC bombings. Come on we will never see these tapes if there is any truth to them.

Very true....it will be mis-filed

 

[evansvillethompsongunner]

Very true....it will be mis-filed

I also wonder about the many kilos of cocaine that go 'missing' from evidence rooms in Florida on a clock-work basis.

As for the tape, I have no questions about it.
It WILL go missing, just like the left door that would have shown who fired the first shots at Waco, hm.

Can't have the citizenry knowing TOO much, now.
Truth is far too dangerous a threat to concerted mass control.

 

[Knife Lady]

Trying to show off and lack of experience got this little girl killed. I always thought they were supposed to never take risks on any innocent people getting hurt. Well that idea went out the window. To purposely put a childs life in danger is completely unacceptable. No matter if the family knew there was a criminal in the house the PD was still at fault on their approach to apphrehend the criminal. She is in heaven now which is a much better place than here thats for sure.

 

[XMil]

Well, better a little girl dies, than have the police sit outside waiting. That would be far too big an inconvenience for the Government to bear.







(That was sarcasm, for the sarcastically impaired among you)

 

[dross]

Well, better a little girl dies, than have the police sit outside waiting. That would be far too big an inconvenience for the Government to bear.

(That was sarcasm, for the sarcastically impaired among you)

Yes, a little girl was killed. But thank the good lord that none of the SWAT team officers of the law were hurt.

 

[Fargo]

A para-military death squad just slaughtered a sleeping child with total impunity.

Don't you think it a bit early to determine the "total impunity" part?

Joe

 

[Liberty Sanders]

Regardless of how this incident shakes out, this demonstrates how dangerous the over-militarization of American law enforcement has become.

I picked up plenty of homicide suspects during my career. I'd meet the homicide dicks at some location with one or two other beat cops. If we were hot on a suspect's trail it might just be me and another cop. We'd go to the location and a couple of us would cover the back while the rest knocked on the front door. Either the guy would be there or he wouldn't. We sure as hell never risked a gunfight in a house full of non-combatants.

The thought of calling a SWAT team for an arrest like this would never have entered our minds. Had we ever actually called for one the request would have been refused as frivolous and we would have been the laughingstock of our department. Actually throwing a flashbang into a residence thought to contain a suspect who had not yet offered resistance to us would have been absolutely out of the question.

I hate to think that today's LEO's just aren't as tough as we were in my day. I think it's simply that this is what the younger ones have been taught and it's all they know. Using a SWAT team for routine arrests is apparently perfectly normal in their minds.

Part of the problem is that departments are using money from drug seizures to buy bigger and better toys. Once they have them they have to justify the purchases by using the equipment. If there aren't enough legitimate SWAT operations to do that they have to create them.

Hopefully this tragedy will open some eyes to the fact that military search & destroy operations have no place being used by law enforcement authorities in civilian society.

 

[evansvillethompsongunner]

Don't you think it a bit early to determine the "total impunity" part?

Joe

If my assessment be premature or off-the-mark, let's see what's happened to some of our more infamous criminals.

Lon Horiuchi: blatantly defied the rules-of-engagement and sniped at a mother holding her child. Consequence: none.

Janet Reno: authorized the burning alive of eighty-one men, women, and children. Consequence: none.

Louis Freeh: lead the cover-up regarding the unwarranted assault upon eighty-one men, women, and children, burning them alive with CS gas set alight (which evolves into hydrogen cyanide upon deflagration) via flamethrower-tank. (Frontline episode, PBS). Consequence: none.

You know, my assessment just might have been pre-mature... but you know, I won't hold my breath waiting for the murderer to face any consequence of import.

 

[Manan]

If my assessment be premature or off-the-mark, let's see what's happened to some of our more infamous criminals.

Lon Horiuchi: blatantly defied the rules-of-engagement and sniped at a mother holding her child. Consequence: none.

Janet Reno: authorized the burning alive of eighty-one men, women, and children. Consequence: none.

Louis Freeh: lead the cover-up regarding the unwarranted assault upon eighty-one men, women, and children, burning them alive with CS gas set alight (which evolves into hydrogen cyanide upon deflagration) via flamethrower-tank. (Frontline episode, PBS). Consequence: none.

You know, my assessment just might have been pre-mature... but you know, I won't hold my breath waiting for the murderer to face any consequence of import.

It is a new "statist" mentality that fits very nicely into the socialist / communist doctrine of controlling the people.

 

[Fargo]

If my assessment be premature or off-the-mark, let's see what's happened to some of our more infamous criminals.

Lon Horiuchi: blatantly defied the rules-of-engagement and sniped at a mother holding her child. Consequence: none.

Janet Reno: authorized the burning alive of eighty-one men, women, and children. Consequence: none.

Louis Freeh: lead the cover-up regarding the unwarranted assault upon eighty-one men, women, and children, burning them alive with CS gas set alight (which evolves into hydrogen cyanide upon deflagration) via flamethrower-tank. (Frontline episode, PBS). Consequence: none.

You know, my assessment just might have been pre-mature... but you know, I won't hold my breath waiting for the murderer to face any consequence of import.

One big difference there, everyone you listed above was a federal executive branch official who hid behind a doctrine which prevented state prosecution. Idaho did bring criminal charges against Horiuchi but they were blocked at a federal level.

I put to you that this DPD Cop is in a situation much closer to the Cop who was just convicted of shooting the guy on the motorcycle in a recent thread than he is to the Attorney General of the United States.

Joe

 

[smoking357]

It is a new "statist" mentality that fits very nicely into the socialist / communist doctrine of controlling the people.

Correct.

 

[evansvillethompsongunner]

One big difference there, everyone you listed above was a federal executive branch official who hid behind a doctrine which prevented state prosecution. Idaho did bring criminal charges against Horiuchi but they were blocked at a federal level.

I put to you that this DPD Cop is in a situation much closer to the Cop who was just convicted of shooting the guy on the motorcycle in a recent thread than he is to the Attorney General of the United States.

Joe

You're absolutely right, of course.

But even with this officer being much lower on the totem pole, I still don't think we'll see much in the way of serious consequence.

 

[Kirk Freeman]

Did not the Atlanta cops go to prison and the Ohio cop (who shot the motorcyclist) not convicted at trial?

 

[serpicostraight]

Wayne County | Detroit cop charged in Aiyana's shooting death; dad to be arraigned | The Detroit News update on case.

 

[ZombieApocolypse]

Wayne County | Detroit cop charged in Aiyana's shooting death; dad to be arraigned | The Detroit News update on case.

Thanks for bumping this. I never heard of this incident and its a shame this happened imo

 

[serpicostraight]

Thanks for bumping this. I never heard of this incident and its a shame this happened imo

this is only one of many. and its time it stopped. if they think killing kids is worth the risk of arresting someone its time to stop using them.