I never cast my vote for trump in the past. I fully expect that will not change in the future.
You've made it clear that you believe Trump ordered this by fiat to appease the squishies, and you think this was a viable strategy compared to standing firm--you know, because Trump is such a stud against squishies. Okay, let's assume you're right. That means that if that was a viable strategy, LG and all the other INGOers who ever advocated compromise in order to fend off worse legislation were also advocating a viable strategy.
So then you should switch to their side of it if you want to maintain consistency. You now have to start agreeing with them because you'd be inconsistent if not. You should not advocate compromising on gun laws so that we appease the anti-gun zealots, so they won't do worse.
I mean, dude, it's okay if your heroes have warts. You can knowledge uncomfortable, but obvious truths, while still finding admirable things about your heroes. You don't have force yourself into inconsistent beliefs just to maintain a perfect image of Trump.
It was an unconstitutional move for him to order the BATF'kers to change a definition by fiat which originated by an act of congress. It is a bad strategy to compromise some rights so that anti-gun zealots won't go after more rights. Trump was flat out wrong. But you guys have to make this into some grand genius move by your hero so that you don't have to admit that he has warts too.
BINGO!You assume Trump, or even DeSantis, for that matter COULD win in 2024. If GOP does not learn how to make mail-in voting and ballot harvesting work for them, Republicans won't win another national election
Trump was such a disappointment. Yep, the best years of most peoples lives were such a disappointment. Cheap energy (energy=freedom), low food costs, good markets for retirement accounts, the list could go on and on. It was such a disappointment…I sure hope so. Trump was a disappointment and I wont be voting for him again if i can help it. Just like any Democrat he said hes pro gun then passed gun control.
Do you mean, how can I say you're inconsistent because you believe it held off worse (without evidence of it)? Simple. Next time someone starts saying that we should compromise to hold off worse, to be consistent you can't say, no, not one more inch. Because you don't believe that. You believe that it worked this time. That has to be a part of your thinking from here out.Why is saying what one believes happened being on a side? It WAS a compromise to an end. I personally do not prefer that route but I do believe in this case it held off worse…
When it was announced that Trump was doing that I called the WH to express my displeasure with that action. I am against the compromise solution. I did not support it.Do you mean, how can I say you're inconsistent because you believe it held off worse (without evidence of it)? Simple. Next time someone starts saying that we should compromise to hold off worse, to be consistent you can't say, no, not one more inch. Because you don't believe that. You believe that it worked this time. That has to be a part of your thinking from here out.
Also, it would be helpful to your case if your belief were based on something concrete. As it's not, could it be that you just want to believe it because you can't envision that Trump could do the wrong thing?
The media told him so…So how was Trump such a disappointment?
Two things can be true at the same time. Trump could have done many good things. Trump could be a disappointment to an honest observer.Trump was such a disappointment. Yep, the best years of most peoples lives were such a disappointment. Cheap energy (energy=freedom), low food costs, good markets for retirement accounts, the list could go on and on. It was such a disappointment…
When it was announced that Trump was doing that I called the WH to express my displeasure with that action. I am against the compromise solution. I did not support it.
To explain the compromise to those with TDS accusing Trump of being anti-gun and that he is no different than dems on guns is not supporting the tactic.
Much like anti-abortion legislation from the Rep side. 'Just give us money and re-elect us and THIS time we'll outlaw abortion for sure. Lather. Rinse. Repeat' McConnell even admitted, in an unguarded moment when pressure to end the filibuster was building, that many things the rank and file wanted would only be brought forward as a scorched earth policy to enact pain if the Dems did undo the fillibusterI know what I've been told by Trumpers was the reason. And that's probably the reason. But my instincts keep telling me that Ivanka's heart bled and so daddy fixed stuff.
What my dispassionate examination of the situation tells me is that it's doubtful that it staved off stronger legislation. Serously. Why would it? They want a AWB. Why would they say, oh, yeah, since you're banning bump stocks used by almost no one, we'll not use this shooting to further pursue our holy grail. It fizzled out because the press eventually dropped the story. Just like it has with every other shooting.
[Perhaps you should think in terms of what Trump knew at the time rather than what you know now if your judging a decision he made at that time, and perhaps consider he wasn't trying to convince Dems not to go after an AWB but keep his own squish Reps from going along with something like that. See: Biden gun control legislation this year. Why did so many Reps go along for that ride? Trump? I think not]
One other thing about their holy grail. I suspect that there may be some reality behind the idea that the DNC is really not as serious as they portray about actually doing an AWB, because it fires up the base in campaign season, and it's great funding fodder. Not that we want to believe that and let our vigilance go dormant. We still need to continually press against anti gun zealots and support organizations that help the fight.
He predictably played into the hands of the media and gave them 1/6. Not that he planned it. But his rhetoric especially about Pence gives the media and the nation a reason to believe the most uncharitable interpretations of what happened on 1/6. That's a disappointment to people who think he should have behaved better. But it was predictable. I don't find it a disappointment because of course he did that. it's what it is.Under Trump, the economy was booming, gas was under $2 a gallon, unemployment was at all time lows for all categories, unneeded regulations were being eliminated, the boarder wall was being built, illegal immigrants were at all times lows, interest rates were low, democrats in the swamp were beginning to work across the isle, wages were going up and most important, I was starting to get ahead.
So how was Trump such a disappointment?
We will have to disagree, we both believe the other is saying nonsense…Your explanation of a compromise isn't working because it's nonsense.
Much like anti-abortion legislation from the Rep side. 'Just give us money and re-elect us and THIS time we'll outlaw abortion for sure. Lather. Rinse. Repeat' McConnell even admitted, in an unguarded moment when pressure to end the filibuster was building, that many things the rank and file wanted would only be brought forward as a scorched earth policy to enact pain if the Dems did undo the fillibuster
To paraphrase an old truism, it's not whether I'm cynical, it's whether I'm cynical enough
[Perhaps you should think in terms of what Trump knew at the time rather than what you know now if your judging a decision he made at that time, and perhaps consider he wasn't trying to convince Dems not to go after an AWB but keep his own squish Reps from going along with something like that. See: Biden gun control legislation this year. Why did so many Reps go along for that ride? Trump? I think not]
Well yeah. But I'm righter.We will have to disagree, we both believe the other is saying nonsense…
Ohio Senate went from R controlled 25 to 8 to R controlled 26 to 7, both are super majorities so he was ahead of DeSantis' curveSo, DeWine flipped three US House seats red and attained a super majority in both state legislatures?
He's kinda rich. And I heard he ****ed a porn star. Have you ****ed a porn star? I didn't think so.What were Trumps accomplishments prior to being elected in 2016?
My text imbedded in your post text was in response to the paragraph just above it. The part you have quoted was also directed at the paragraph just above it. You might try to encompass the entire reply, as intended, in your worldview - unless it's just easier to pick and choose the excerpts you WANT to argue withThis isn't a justification for ordering the BATF'ers to change definitions of terms established by an act of congress. The president doesn't have the power to do that. There's no reason to do all the mental gymnastics to make this more complicated than it is, unless you're trying to make this NOT a wrong move by Trump. It absolutely was.
Ohio Senate went from R controlled 25 to 8 to R controlled 26 to 7, both are super majorities so he was ahead of DeSantis' curve
Ohio House went from R controlled 64 to 35 to at least 66 to 33 and possibly as high as 68 to 31 (2 races going to recount), both are super majorities and again DeWine was already ahead of the DeSantis 'benchmark'
In 2020, our House delegation was 12 R to 4D, or 75% R
Florida's was 16 R to 11 D, or 59.3% R
After the census we lost one seat and FL gained one. We are now 10 R to 5D with one lost to court ordered redistricting and one eliminated due to census, at 66% R
Florida is now 20 R to 8D, at 71.4% R. Let me know when they exceed our high water mark