CC + OC = COC

[92FS]

Fact: IN law does not mandate CC nor prohibit OC.

Observation: Lots of people have lots of good reasons to OC.

Observation: Lots of people have lots of good reasons to CC.

Observation: I have noticed in reading some of the threads on this forum that several people have mentioned the fact that when they OC it seems few if anyone even notices.

Observation: I have also noticed several people have great interest in "detecting" people who CC. Or if they CC they seem obsessed with making sure they are really "concealing" and not "showing."

Question: Is there no middle ground? Do we have to be either totally concealed all the time or totally open all the time? Can't we have it both ways?

Proposal: I'm proposing a new compromise method of carry: Concealed Open Carry - COC.

Working Theory: I think I'm going to carry in a manner that most would call CC. The majority of the time the sheeple won't even notice that I am carrying. But, I'm not going to worry about it or freak out if someone might see the outline of my pistol under my shirt, or if my shirt is unbuttoned and swings open in the wind and someone sees an OWB holster then that's fine too. To that small minority of people who occasionaly see or notice they can just consider me OCing. Since we don't have to CC in this state then I will just consider I am not trying to CC, I just choose to casually cover-up my OC most of the time - concealed open carry.

Feedback: So, what do you all think?

 

[Scutter01]

Feedback: So, what do you all think?

I think you're asking for another OC/CC argument. The reality is that those who are opposed to OC will not be convinced otherwise on a web forum. Those who are for OC will not be convinced to conceal.

 

[jeremy]

I think it is a great idea.

 

[Donnelly]

That is how I usually carry my Glock, holster clipped inside my front pocket and polo shirt casually draped over. If someone sees it, oh well. I have a license to carry.

 

[Bisley Man]

Fact: IN law does not mandate CC nor prohibit OC.

Observation: Lots of people have lots of good reasons to OC.

Observation: Lots of people have lots of good reasons to CC.

Observation: I have noticed in reading some of the threads on this forum that several people have mentioned the fact that when they OC it seems few if anyone even notices.

Observation: I have also noticed several people have great interest in "detecting" people who CC. Or if they CC they seem obsessed with making sure they are really "concealing" and not "showing."

Question: Is there no middle ground? Do we have to be either totally concealed all the time or totally open all the time? Can't we have it both ways?

Proposal: I'm proposing a new compromise method of carry: Concealed Open Carry - COC.

Working Theory: I think I'm going to carry in a manner that most would call CC. The majority of the time the sheeple won't even notice that I am carrying. But, I'm not going to worry about it or freak out if someone might see the outline of my pistol under my shirt, or if my shirt is unbuttoned and swings open in the wind and someone sees an OWB holster then that's fine too. To that small minority of people who occasionaly see or notice they can just consider me OCing. Since we don't have to CC in this state then I will just consider I am not trying to CC, I just choose to casually cover-up my OC most of the time - concealed open carry.

Feedback: So, what do you all think?

Nothing wrong with that.With my increased waste size(buffets) OWB carry is what I prefer. Like you I don't fret (too much) if my 38 "prints" through my shirt. For a long time I thought CC was mandatory because our town marshal chewed out a man for OC'ing A 357 back in the 1980's. Said he'd revoke his or any others LTCH if they'd OC.

 

[IndyGunworks]

this in reality is just another CC vs OC debate.... i carry the exact same way as you said, but consider it CC. I support the right of the OCer though.

 

[printcraft]

this in reality is just another CC vs OC debate.... i carry the exact same way as you said, but consider it CC. I support the right of the OCer though.

Those COC'ers are ok or crazies.

Sorta.. not really.... making people upset or not care or indifferently terrified ............. what???????

 

[Jubbie]

I guess I'm just an odd-ball, I'm not liking the idea. If I'm CC'ing for some reason, then I don't want ANYONE to know I'm carrying. Usually I OC, people see the firearm if they notice, then they see a relaxed person going about his day. I might be wrong, but my thinking is if someone catches sight of a firearm that is supposedly "supposed to be concealed", then they are going to think the worst, that that person is trying to get somewhere without the firearm being known about it till it is too late. Either keep it buried so nobody knows, or keep it out so everyone knows (and hopefully get used to seeing/learns OC is OK).

 

[Joe Williams]

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Feedback: So, what do you all think?

I think a bunch of us have beat you to it We (or at least I) call it "casual concealed." Vests, unbuttoned shirts, Hawaiian shirts, etc... lots of 'em covering guns.

Think anyone suspects there might be a gun in the following pics, even though I don't consider it particularly subtle? Probably not most of the sheeple. God bless 'em

 

[Ness2k]

I carry a fullsize XDm on my hip, and my absolutely firearm scared cousin didn't even notice it when she hugged me.

Most people don't. I could care less if some random guy I see is OC'ing (actually, we will probably have something to talk about), CC'ing, or COC'ing. I have the professionalism to not get angry and to ignore anyone who wishes to try and berate me for carrying in public.

I do love the little kids that say "look daddy, that guy has a gun!". "One day you can too, kiddo"

 

[henktermaat]

Does anyone else think the acronym is too close to the word "cock"?

Sorry, sorry. Letters and words amuse me

 

[Joe Williams]

Does anyone else think the acronym is too close to the word "cock"?

Sorry, sorry. Letters and words amuse me

Oppsie daisy... I'll bet that was an accident! LOL

 

[bwframe]

...I'm not going to worry about it or freak out if someone might see the outline of my pistol under my shirt, or if my shirt is unbuttoned and swings open in the wind and someone sees an OWB holster then that's fine too. To that small minority of people who occasionaly see or notice they can just consider me OCing.

Yep, exactly the way I do it.

 

[youngda9]

this in reality is just another CC vs OC debate.... i carry the exact same way as you said, but consider it CC. I support the right of the OCer though.

More and more every day I am feeling the same way. I am less concerned about printing or the occasional cover shirt brush back as 99.374% of people wouldn't notice it even if they were looking right at you.

You get comftorable with your new "garment" and worry less about it each day.

 

[youngda9]

I think a bunch of us have beat you to it We (or at least I) call it "casual concealed." Vests, unbuttoned shirts, Hawaiian shirts, etc... lots of 'em covering guns.

Nah, this guy's not packin'. Where's the camera?

 

[chasekerion4]

I went around Indy today to a couple gun stores and Wal-Mart, Dick's, etc.. I made it a point to not OC, however I did the same thing as the OP suggested. T-shirt and jeans, OWB holster on under my shirt.

I certainly wouldn't have cared (being a normal OC'er) if anyone saw it, but I did find myself checking myself every once in awhile to make sure everything was okay on my strong side... Just felt a little 'different'.

I think many CC'ers probably carry like this (at least in IN where you can do both).

 

[ATM]

Printing is scary. I always wonder, "what do they have under there? What are they trying to hide? Is it a cordless drill? It's a cordless drill ISN'T IT!!!"
I'd feel so much better knowing it was just a gun.

 

[Scutter01]

Printing is scary. I always wonder, "what do they have under there? What are they trying to hide? Is it a cordless drill? It's a cordless drill ISN'T IT!!!"
I'd feel so much better knowing it was just a gun.

Any time I get "made", I just tell 'em it's my colostomy bag and offer to show them.

 

[ATM]

Never conceal a cordless drill on the same side as your colostomy bag.

 

[Scutter01]

Never conceal a cordless drill on the same side as your colostomy bag.

It's OK. The bag is cordless, too.