Body armor

[Creedmoor]

Mission Essential Plate Carrier - MEPC

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INGO purchase. Timing was spot on, been looking at some management solutions for a few kinks in my armor.

It really cleans up the load out. Now to get out and test it! (A group of us coworkers have a weekend planned in Oct. to run drills/and do an overnight in full kit.)

Sounds great, why not July or Aug when its 95 -100* with a 55 lb ruck on your back.

 

[Ruger_Ronin]

Sounds great, why not July or Aug when its 95 -100* with a 55 lb ruck on your back.

Why not February when it's freezing rain? I've done that as well as the summer heat.

And my shtf pack is around 40 lbs. I try to do more with less anymore.

 

[Creedmoor]

Why not February when it's freezing rain? I've done that as well as the summer heat.

And my shtf pack is around 40 lbs. I try to do more with less anymore.

Well, what I learned was. Its easier to get warm than cool off.

 

[Ruger_Ronin]

Well, what I learned was. Its easier to get warm than cool off.

I'm already cooler than the other side of the pillow.

You're just hot blooded. Go ahead and check it, and see.

 

[ditcherman]

Well, what I learned was. Its easier to get warm than cool off.

You've got a fever of a hundred and three.

 

[ChalupaCabras]

Not pooping on armor - I've got some myself.

Also not pooping on steel plates there are definitely good even great steel armor out there. The problems are:
1) spray on rubber spall protection isnt very effective
2) many companies dont use actual AR plate or don't heat treat it properly
3) steel plate companies DECEPTIVELY MARKET plates as stoping m855 ... that's great, but .gov agencies use 855A1 now that is both hotter and has a better penetrator. They are counting on you not knowing that. Additionally most steel plates are vulnerable to the faster and cheaper m193 ball, especially from a full length (20") barrel - they seldom if ever test for this COMMON threat combo because they know their products fail it. (Some like scorpion gear and predator do) Again, they count on you not knowing that.

Inexpensive kevlar spall bags are a great upgrade you dont see mentioned much. They are FAR more effective at catching frag than either a coating or the plate carriers nylon (ballistic or otherwise).

There are also higher grades if AR plate. AR500, real and through tempered or not, is one of the lower grades of armor steel. AR550 AND AR650 are significantly harder and thus can be thinner and lighter overall for a similar amount of money.

Predator armor systems offers very thin AR650 plates that are laminated with actual kevlar and rated for both m193 and m855 for prices that are competitive with other companies.

 

[31ST MEUSOC]

Hey sometimes you get what you can then maybe next month get the other or if it takes two months anyway glad you got armor!

 

[Ruger_Ronin]

A few minor rearrangements. The idea is to support both weapons with additional ammo independently.

Added low rise m4 pouches to side plate & appendix spot on belt. Not pictured is TQ holder on belt just between the pistol mags and buckle. (That was a + from a medkit in the backpacking gear.) There is a dump pouch at o'clock 6 on the belt as well.

 

[Creedmoor]

A few minor rearrangements. The idea is to support both weapons with additional ammo independently.

Added low rise m4 pouches to side plate & appendix spot on belt. Not pictured is TQ holder on belt just between the pistol mags and buckle. (That was a + from a medkit in the backpacking gear.) There is a dump pouch at o'clock 6 on the belt as well.

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Ever shoot prone with that load out?

 

[Ruger_Ronin]

Ever shoot prone with that load out?

Yup. It's slicker than it looks.

 

[duanewade]

A few minor rearrangements. The idea is to support both weapons with additional ammo independently.

Added low rise m4 pouches to side plate & appendix spot on belt. Not pictured is TQ holder on belt just between the pistol mags and buckle. (That was a + from a medkit in the backpacking gear.) There is a dump pouch at o'clock 6 on the belt as well.

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I don't think that you have enough spare ammo on that rig LOL

 

[Ruger_Ronin]

I don't think that you have enough spare ammo on that rig LOL

A gunfight without ammo is just dancing.

 

[Ruger_Ronin]

Top view for the skeptics. It manages better than double stack m4 pouches.



The idea is I train around my gear,and find what works best for me. I've gone through many variations across multiple rigs. If you aren't failing & evolving, then you aren't learning. One size does not fit all like yoga pants

 

[Creedmoor]

A gunfight without ammo is just dancing.

We believe ammo is a need also, needs in the front and wants in the back.
But thats us, you do you.

 

[Ruger_Ronin]

We believe ammo is a need also, needs in the front and wants in the back.
But thats us, you do you.
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I like my dance partners in front of me, but thanks anyway.

 

[Creedmoor]

I like my dance partners in front of me, but thanks anyway.

 

[jsx1043]

 

[Creedmoor]

I don't think that you have enough spare ammo on that rig LOL

What do you think a standard load out is for an M4 rifle?

 

[ditcherman]

We believe ammo is a need also, needs in the front and wants in the back.
But thats us, you do you.
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Great picture, is that one of yours?

 

[Creedmoor]

Great picture, is that one of yours?

Yes Thanks, Its also one of my favorites too. He was a 0352 Missile Launcher in that LAR, hes the one shortly heading out to Jordan and then Baghdad.