ATF FRT

[dieselrealtor]

FRT's now,

some day semi-auto sporting rifles.

possibly; "we have a report that states you purchased AR-15 rifles......"

 

[tv1217]

FRT's now,

some day semi-auto sporting rifles.

possibly; "we have a report that states you purchased AR-15 rifles......"

"It's possible....hey, man, those plates level 4 by chance?"

 

[The Bubba Effect]

Top 5 things to say to the ATF.

1: Don't answer the door, don't say ****. X5.

 

[FNparabellum]

There not illegal at least according to my lawyer. But they definitely are treating them as if they where. I was wondering why all the news about it went away but seems like there still after it.

 

[BigRed]

There not illegal at least according to my lawyer. But they definitely are treating them as if they where. I was wondering why all the news about it went away but seems like there still after it.

What are rhey after?

 

[FNparabellum]

What are rhey after?

The FRT

 

[Life Member]

And if somebody forcibly resists with violence to one of those visits, it will be fuel for the antis. "See! those pro 2a guys are violent extremists. Anyone that "supports the 2a" needs to lose their gun rights."

They already think that.

 

[FNparabellum]

Still confused on if the buffer tube can or cant be a multiple position tube or not. Cant wait for all this to be done

 

[rhamersley]

The cake is a lie.

 

[HoosierLife]

Yep. And if its not a super hot sear, and you order it medium rare, you get a blubbery mess with no char to give it good flavor.

Probably the saddest steak I have ever eaten that was cooked to proper internal temperature. Maybe even worse than an overcooked steak.

Maybe that is the problem. I always order medium rare. What do I need to tell them to do?

 

[Cameramonkey]

Maybe that is the problem. I always order medium rare. What do I need to tell them to do?

Run a hotter grill. LOL Because if the grill isnt hot enough, by the time the fat chars, it will be well done.

Its one of those situations that there probably isnt anything you can tell them to do if they dont have a hot enough grill.

 

[Tryin']

Maybe that is the problem. I always order medium rare. What do I need to tell them to do?

Don't order one at a place that isn't vetted or doesn't charge at least $50 for it. Get the sirloin instead, it's a way safer bet.

 

[Cameramonkey]

Don't order one at a place that isn't vetted or doesn't charge at least $50 for it. Get the sirloin instead, it's a way safer bet.

This. I actually prefer sirloin. Even over NY strip. Especially Medium Rare.

 

[HoosierLife]

This. I actually prefer sirloin. Even over NY strip. Especially Medium Rare.

I really like filet’s medium rare butterflied.

But I love the taste of ribeyes. But couldn’t figure out why sometimes they were so nasty.

 

[Cameramonkey]

I really like filet’s medium rare butterflied.

But I love the taste of ribeyes. But couldn’t figure out why sometimes they were so nasty.

Char is the key. No char on the fat=blubber. Once you char it, a lot of the oil is rendered out of the fat and it changes the taste and texture.

Look at tasty flame broiled burgers. Take that that same beef patty and cook it sous vide (that's french for "boiled in a bag") And you've lost the awesome taste and just have a greasy patty.

 

[ntrngr]

Still confused on if the buffer tube can or cant be a multiple position tube or not. Cant wait for all this to be done

I am not a lawyer nor am I giving advice, however, it does not appear to be confusing: If you can put the brace back on it, its illegal. (illegal = law subverted by ATF deeming something is illegal, not actually illegal = do it and get charged). Essentially, the buffer tube cannot be designed to have been able to accept a brace. You must purchase a buffer tube that will not accept a brace.

 

[Cameramonkey]

Pretty sure since a brace could* be jammed onto pretty much any buffer tube, that you'd have to modify/destroy the brace, not the tube.

*not all, Im sure but any of the rubber ones.

 

[ntrngr]

Pretty sure since a brace could* be jammed onto pretty much any buffer tube, that you'd have to modify/destroy the brace, not the tube.

*not all, Im sure but any of the rubber ones.

...but according to what "they" say (they = people that claim to know more than me), if it was designed for a brace it absolutely illegal because you can easily put a brace on it. But, if it wasn't designed for a brace (unlike the 3 or 4 position standard tubes are designed for a shoulder stock), then its legal.

The fact is, this is going to be just another one of those "gotchas" where if you argue with the illegal corporate government they will search your place and if they find something, BOOM! You're charged even if its legal. Its called "Lawfare". Like during "Warfare" they see you as an enemy and they want to hurt you. You might even win the battle but you'll still hurt.

The over reaching state does this because they can print unlimited amounts of money. The evil (in government) will never go away until we have honest money.

For now, we have to follow their rules even though they follow no rules. First it was FRTs, now Pistol Braces. Whats next? "Well, your AR is like a machine gun because it can use magazines that hold more than 10 rounds."

I'm doing some research today. I'm reading the part in the Constitution where they say the government can ban FRTs, Pistol Braces and Short barreled rifles (or require a "tax stamp"). Can anyone help me find that section. I'm not having any luck.

 

[ntrngr]

Pretty sure since a brace could* be jammed onto pretty much any buffer tube, that you'd have to modify/destroy the brace, not the tube.

*not all, Im sure but any of the rubber ones.

The fact is, the rules say that you can't just destroy the brace. If the tube was designed for a brace, its illegal.

Kind of like the blank lower deal. If you buy a blank lower and put a 16" barrel on it you can never, techinically, put a 10.5" barrel on it because it was once a rifle, now you've made it a short barreled rifle. But, If it was first a pistol, then, you can put a 16" barrel on it and even switch it back and its OK.

The problem isn't the guns. The problem is agencies trying to make law as they go.

 

[Cameramonkey]

Yep. The only way to win is to not play the game.