Afghanistan

[DadSmith]

We made the mistake of staying and rebuilding as usual. Get in destroy the enemy and go home. Let them rebuild on their own dime. If they start something again we go in take out whatever targets that are necessary and go home. Never rebuild its a waste of time and money.

 

[bwframe]

I didn't catch exactly who the commentator was on Tucker tonight, but he made a great point...

He said, "Trump wanted out of Afghanastan also. The difference is that if Trump were president under these same circumstances, he'd be lobbing MOABs in Afghanistan as we speak.

 

[KLB]

Better MOABs than boots on the ground. I agree with those that say we've lost enough of our young in that hole

 

[Tombs]

 

[thompal]

The taliban are hardline Muslims who I sincerely doubt will help the Chinese track down down escaped uighers.

Keep in mind that there are different sects of muslims, and they are often more than willing to kill each other. I'm not sure where the uighers fit in that spectrum.

 

[thompal]

It's like Vietnam, every nation eventually has a go at it, but fails miserably.

At this point, it's an excuse for a welfare check to defense contractors.

Which is why so many of the politicians are looking for any excuse to stay there, and escalate further. They've got to make their donors happy, and get ready for their consultant position when they leave office.

 

[thompal]

With the weapons,vehicles and equiptment we left behind, the Taliban have a good start on the ChiComs. View attachment 152748
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I wonder if we will be their preffered parts supplier.

I wonder if anyone is trying to reach them about their car warranty.

 

[thompal]

This whole debacle kind of puts an end to the 2nd amendment debate of “can a man with a rifle oppose the government”

I wonder if Swalwell can even grasp the concept. Or his Chinese spy girlfriend.

 

[KG1]

The only thing the Afgan "Army" did with the arms that the US supplied them with is surrender them to the taliban.

 

[Ddillard]

The military industrial complex has an agenda to keep us in constant combat. Get in, stay for long periods, accomplish nothing, then do partial withdrawal, and bam have to go back in to fix the situation that they started/allowed in the first place. Our involvement is contrary to our establishments founding. I am a veteran, and am glad I am no longer involved in this craptastic dilemma. ~"One Man's Opinion!"

 

[jamil]

This whole debacle kind of puts an end to the 2nd amendment debate of “can a man with a rifle oppose the government”

It depends on the will of the government to use all the resources at its means and completely disregard the lives of all their people even the ones who disagree with the, vs the will of the people with rifles to disregard their own lives, and the lives of their loved ones, for the sake of tomorrow.

 

[foszoe]

I can't help but wonder if this is when I get to see the Fall of Saigon in real time.

 

[jamil]

The only thing the Afgan "Army" did with the arms that the US supplied them with is surrender them to the taliban.

That’s kinda what really pisses me off about this. We were over there trying to make a democracy, and many of them DID want a democracy. But, it looks to me like more people really wanted a theocracy. So the pro-democracy people didn’t know who to trust even in their own government. Win hearts and minds my ass. That’s where we really lost. And it was always gonna be that way.

Our mission should always have been narrow: to jam an American flagged pole in the skulls of the people who planned 911, strap their carcasses to the closest thing resembling a tree in the middle of the ********, and then leave.

And Iraq should never have been in the discussion in the first place. It’s not our place to rescue people from their own tyrannical governments.

 

[foszoe]

And Iraq should never have been in the discussion in the first place. It’s not our place to rescue people from their own tyrannical governments.

Our present government excluded.

 

[rooster]

To get off my policy soapbox for a minute

as a veteran who supported OEF in an active role and a guy who lost friends in that sh**hole I am pretty peeved that we are in the situation. But We can’t turn back the hands of time or bring our lost brothers and sisters back so the best we can do is stop the flow of American blood.

anyone who knows a vet of the Afghan war should reach out to them and check in. This is messing with some pretty bad.

 

[BE Mike]

How many things can the current administration screw up? They must hold a record. The American people chose personality over competence. We and Afghans are paying the price. My heart goes out to the vets of this war, especially to those who were seriously wounded and the families of those slain.

 

[gregr]

To get off my policy soapbox for a minute

as a veteran who supported OEF in an active role and a guy who lost friends in that sh**hole I am pretty peeved that we are in the situation. But We can’t turn back the hands of time or bring our lost brothers and sisters back so the best we can do is stop the flow of American blood.

anyone who knows a vet of the Afghan war should reach out to them and check in. This is messing with some pretty bad.

I have differing views on this whole situation than a lot here, but because I`m not a vet, I suppose my views don`t carry much weight. I`ll just bacl out of here, but I do agree with what you`re saying. Those who have been through it there on the ground have a right to be upset.

 

[gregr]

How many things can the current administration screw up? They must hold a record. The American people chose personality over competence. We and Afghans are paying the price. My heart goes out to the vets of this war, especially to those who were seriously wounded and the families of those slain.

And, our hearts should go out to those living there in Afghanistan who trusted that America wouldn`t surrender them to the evil and brutality of the taliban after the U.S. encouraged them to speak out against them and their filthy sharia law. Now they`re abandoned and they know they`ll be brutalized for speaking up.

 

[KLB]

It depends on the will of the government to use all the resources at its means and completely disregard the lives of all their people even the ones who disagree with the, vs the will of the people with rifles to disregard their own lives, and the lives of their loved ones, for the sake of tomorrow.

I don't know. The Russians didn't fare any better than we did there, and they were a lot more ruthless.

 

[foszoe]

How many things can the current administration screw up? They must hold a record. The American people chose personality over competence. We and Afghans are paying the price. My heart goes out to the vets of this war, especially to those who were seriously wounded and the families of those slain.

I'll see your current and raise you 2 previous.