Active shooter situation at school in Parkland, FL; reports of victims

[Hkindiana]

In all reality, it appears that there are many on this forum that are fine with the carnage. The evidence of that is the fact that they fight so hard against literally any change in gun laws.

Some facts:
Outside of the United States, there have been 25 school shootings in the the last 20 years - total, world-wide. There have been 25 in the United States in the last 35 days.

The United States was recently downgraded to the most dangerous country in the industrialized world to be a youth. Between increasing infant mortality, youth driving deaths, schools shootings and a myriad of other reasons.

Finally, there have been approximately 239 US school shootings since Sandyhook Elementary school in 2012. There are on average 5 shootings per month.

Sleep well

You are really comparing apples to oranges. MOST countries underreport school shootings and/or have totally different definitions of what a "school shooting" is and is not, compared to the US politicized news media. Take a look at the myriad of US "school shootings" and you will see these beauties in that list: numerous accidental discharges of security personel's weapons, a child fired a pellet gun at a school, lots of after hours drug activity shootings in school parking lots, lots of other non school related shootings and accidental dicharges in school parking lots, etc.

 

[Avec]

BULL****! That is pure, not so rare, vintage BULL****! Your projections are about as inaccurate as any ideologue I've ever seen.

No one is fine with it.

We just disagree about what can be done.

Calm the **** down and climb out of your bubble.

I see a lot of "No Law will help" and "don't take any of my rights" - which is quite literally the definition of wanting to maintain the status quo. I don't see many that are actually saying, "we need to do something" If I have missed that, my bad. Point them out, please

 

[jbombelli]

Really? So, your answer is to do nothing?

There is nothing we can actually do that could prevent these things from happening. What do you think should be done?

 

[churchmouse]

And again.......I would ask that we all take a deep breath and settle down. My hair is on fire right now with all this insanity. Emotions are high.

Avec....look around at who you are discussing this with. Yes we fear a gun grab because regardless of what you think that is the end run they are playing....totally disarm us and move towards a Euro model of gov.
This is a truth not an opinion.

 

[jamil]

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The problem is mental health. Yes it needs to be re-funded and all the money sent off shore to placate our adversary's redirected into it. JMHO of course

I think the problem is more than just mental health. But it is definitely a problem with people.

 

[Avec]

Nothing along these lines as it would do.......wait for it.........almost there........"Nothing"

How is any legislation going to stop anyone bent on harm. All it will do is make our (legal owners) lifes harder. Nothing more.
I just can not wrap my head around this concept. People will do as they please if the mind set is there. Laws be damned. We see this every day.

Just another placibo to warm the hearts of the fearful and make them sleep better. Until this happens again.

The problem is mental health. Yes it needs to be re-funded and all the money sent off shore to placate our adversary's redirected into it. JMHO of course

No idea what you mean by the bolded text Something snarky, no doubt. Didn't I recently see a moderator's post warning about such things?

 

[churchmouse]

There is nothing we can actually do that could prevent these things from happening. What do you think should be done?

More laws higher ammo prices/taxes.....etc and so on.
All this will hurt is us.

OK....I have said my piece and will stand down from further comment tonight. If I have to moderate this I need to step off.

 

[jbombelli]

Really? So your answer is to do something--anything--without any evidence that the thing you want to try will work.

I ask you before about ideas. You said you got nothing. Okay. Sit tight then until you figure it out. You don't impose restrictions on 100 million gun owners just so you can get your feelz right.

He has ideas of what he thinks should be done. He just won't mention them. He's trying to sneak up on us, with anti-gunner legislation, like we haven't seen this a thousand times before, by people far better at it.

 

[churchmouse]

K fellas. If we have 1 more issue I will close it.
1 shooter so far.

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

I see a lot of "No Law will help" and "don't take any of my rights" - which is quite literally the definition of wanting to maintain the status quo. I don't see many that are actually saying, "we need to do something" If I have missed that, my bad. Point them out, please

What "something" will keep people intent on harming others from doing so while not infringing on every other gun owners' rights?

 

[jbombelli]

What "something" will keep people intent on harming others from doing so while not infringing on every other gun owners' rights?

He can't answer you.

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

K fellas. If we have 1 more issue I will close it.
1 shooter so far.

IBTL?

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

He can't answer you.

Just saw that.

 

[jamil]

I see a lot of "No Law will help" and "don't take any of my rights" - which is quite literally the definition of wanting to maintain the status quo. I don't see many that are actually saying, "we need to do something" If I have missed that, my bad. Point them out, please

That's a facile conflation.

Do you have an idea that will fix the problem? I ask you that before. You said you don't. So stand down. We don't just arbitrarily restrict people's freedoms just so you'll feel like we did something. Not wanting to fly off the handle and implement an arbitrary solution that we think won't solve the problem is not status quo. We're not saying we don't want to do ANYTHING. We're saying we don't believe THAT thing will work. I am unwilling to arbitrarily try stuff until something sticks.

That's not the same thing as status quo.

And if you want to have a real conversation about this, maybe you should try to say something a bit more conversational. Lecturing us with herp derp isn't going to start a meaningful conversation.

 

[jamil]

Oh. Nevermind.

 

[Dead Duck]

I see a lot of "No Law will help" and "don't take any of my rights" - which is quite literally the definition of wanting to maintain the status quo. I don't see many that are actually saying, "we need to do something" If I have missed that, my bad. Point them out, please

All the answers are in the earlier posts. Some will help right away and others will take time because they have been eroding the system for a while now.

- Get rid of all the Gun Free Zone.... so the people have a chance to defend themselves and it's a deterrent to dirtbags.
- Stop overdispensing drugs to the mentally ill...... this has been going on way too long. Most the damage is irreversible for some.
- Prosecutors need to actually prosecute......as it is now, crime DOES pay. There is no incentive not to do the crime.
- Judges need to keep dirtbags in prison and stop letting them out early...... cops are burned out by re-arresting dirtbags too soon.
- Parents need to take more responsibility for their kids actions....... pro-active parenting is almost non-existent in certain places.

Easy fixes but liberals will have none of it. Only knee-jerk reactions to feel better in the short term.










oh, and IBTL

 

[churchmouse]

He can't answer you.

But he is on line so he can see it.

 

[BigBoxaJunk]

Just saw that.

Wow, there's a first for me. I actually saw it happen in real time.

 

[jbombelli]

Wow, there's a first for me. I actually saw it happen in real time.

Yeah, I usually miss it too.

 

[Scuba591]

And now I received a message that there was a non credible threat made against Noblesville High School for tomorrow. Two students overheard a conversation on the bus ride home today and used the confidential reporting app on the Pad to report the student making a threat. The school and NPD have made contact with that student. I am guessing that after the interview a determination was made that there was no real threat. The app is called Speak Up. The message continues to urge students to speak up and praised the two that reported the conversation.