I predicted it...no time to find the post. This didn't really take much in the way of brains to figure out, though.
you might get it to burn but it won't explode....
If it was approved by the atf, I don't see how they are culpable. Isn't there a law against suing gun makers for murders or something?
Oh yeah and this...
I predicted it...no time to find the post. This didn't really take much in the way of brains to figure out, though.
You are not thinking of the sig brace?I don't know how far a litigator could push this. But since it was justified as a device to assist impaired shooters, it would seem an argument could be made (and who knows what discovery would turn up) to show that the maker had different intentions and knew his device was capable of wanton destruction, yada yada yada.
There's also one hell of a difference between tracers and incendiary ammunition. LE have only mentioned tracer. I take what I read outside of official press briefings and news releases with a grain of salt knowing firsthand how news reporting can become twisted. Example: Press briefing mentions tracer ammunition and suddenly it becomes incendiary because an ignorant reporter asks the one standing next to them what a tracer is and they're told it's similar to or like an incendiary. There are both tracer and incendiary 7.62x51 NATO ammunition, plus a third type that's both incendiary and tracer. Incendiary, in general, doesn't ignite until impact and must strike a sufficiently hard or stiff target to do so.
An Incendiary would be hot enough to ignite kerosene, but the likelihood is still low. Liquid fuel won't burn by itself. It must first evaporate and form a fuel-oxygen (from air) mixture that can burn. What makes one fuel more volatile than another is not the ignition temperature, but its flash point, which is the temperature at which enough will evaporate to form an air-fuel mixture that will burn. The temperatures may vary slightly for various grades. I pulled these from online data that didn't specify grade, but they're close enough. The flash point of gasoline is -45 F. That's right, it's 45 degrees below zero. Its auto-ignition temperature is 536 F. Keep these two in mind. The flash point of kerosene is 100 F which is above room temperature (72 F) and above the daytime high for most temperate regions during most of the year. Its auto-ignition point is 428 F.
The auto-ignition point is the temperature at which spontaneous combustion occurs provided it has a proper fuel-air mixture to sustain it. Note that the auto-ignition point for kerosene is over 100 F lower than for gasoline. However, what makes gasoline so volatile is its extremely low flash point. With a flash point of 100 F, kerosene is substantially more difficult to ignite. With a tracer or incendiary striking kerosene, the round(s) would first have to raise temperature of the kerosene within its vicinity to 100 F or above, let it mix with air sufficiently and then ignite it. If the kerosene quickly extinguishes the round it cannot ignite. OTOH, igniting gasoline with an incendiary in particular would be much easier. With a storage tank of either, a leak forming a puddle external to the tank is required and a region of it raised above the flash point by external flame before fuel-air mixture that can support combustion can be developed and ignited.
Long . . . but the -45 F flash point of gasoline is why an open pan of it can explode . . . or if you put it onto a pile of wood or charcoal and then toss a match in . . . versus kerosene's 100 F flash point . . . which you can ignite, but won't generally explode unless it's a very hot summer day and you let it sit for a while.
John
Bump stock maker is probably not going to be part of a joint defense team...if I'm guessing correctly.
Bump stock maker probably can't afford legal costs...files bankruptcy. Another guess.
No new bump stocks from this firm. Don't they have patents?
Solution to current problem without congressional or ATF action?
Perhaps.
Lawyers: feel free to chime in.
I thought he had fired through the actual door and left a hole that police could see into the room through
There will be a "joint defense agreement between defendants like the concert promoters, hotel, venue and they will work together and hang anything weapon related out to dry, though there will not be a true "joint defense", just an agreement that protects privileges if that is allowed by local law.
If the bump-stock maker has insurance (and why wouldn't you?) they will likely end up interpleading the policy limits (pay the limits to the court and let the claimants fight for it). As to the ultimate fate of the manufacturer, you are correct. I would highly doubt they have much in the way of assets that are not subject to security interests.
The only valuable asset they may have is the patents (if they have them) and those just got a lot less valuable.
Obviously, the defense of the manufacturer is the unforeseable misuse of the product by a third-party criminal. That used to have real power, in Indiana at least, not so much anymore (Delta Tau); don't know about other places. Like I said, though, the injuries are too great for the insurer to fight this for long.
You are not thinking of the sig brace?
Your letter advises that the stock....is intended to assist persons whose hands have limited mobility....
No need. I remember it. If I can remember it, probably everyone that read it does.