A bad thing happened in INDY!

[U.S. Patriot]

Lets prosecute any shop owner that has had guns stollen.

 

[Fargo]

Lets prosecute any shop owner that has had guns stollen.

Knock yourself out, I am opposed to it.

 

[U.S. Patriot]

Knock yourself out, I am opposed to it.

Only if they are left in a trailer, right?

 

[Fargo]

Only if they are left in a trailer, right?

No, I defy you to show me where I ever called for criminal charges, prosecution, revocation of ffl, boycott, or closing of profire.

I did, however, call for them to stop storing machine guns this way. I do doubt the BAT boys will let them keep their SOT3, but I am not, and nor have I ever advocated for that happening.

Any other positions you want to ascribe to me?

 

[wolfman]

Not saying it was adequate (clearly it was not), just posting it in response to the accusatory tone in the "how do you know what security measures were in place?" question. Andrew has stated publicly how the trailer was secured. Also worth noting that the thieves did not go through the side of the trailer. It was intact and re-locked when found*.






*Information gathered from news reports and photos, not first hand knowledge.

Ya, I wondered about that one. Maybe I imagined this, but I could swear I saw a news clip on TV of someone walking up to the rear of the trailer, using a key to open the lock, then swinging the doors open. My question is ******, did the thieves pick the lock to get in the trailer then re lock it with the original lock? For some reason, I don't see the people in the pictures as "lock picking" types, they appear to be more along the lines of bolt cutters, hacksaw, sawzall or grinder types.

 

[Dead Duck]

Ya, I wondered about that one. Maybe I imagined this, but I could swear I saw a news clip on TV of someone walking up to the rear of the trailer, using a key to open the lock, then swinging the doors open. My question is ******, did the thieves pick the lock to get in the trailer then re lock it with the original lock? For some reason, I don't see the people in the pictures as "lock picking" types, they appear to be more along the lines of bolt cutters, hacksaw, sawzall or grinder types.

I can lockpick most of the padlocks on my property and all of my home deadbolts sometimes faster than using my keys.
It's very sad how incredibly easy it really is.

 

[IndyGunworks]

No, I defy you to show me where I ever called for criminal charges, prosecution, revocation of ffl, boycott, or closing of profire.

I did, however, call for them to stop storing machine guns this way. I do doubt the BAT boys will let them keep their SOT3, but I am not, and nor have I ever advocated for that happening.

Any other positions you want to ascribe to me?

So you will be happy when they agree to store things the way that YOU deem fit? I demand YOUR guns be kept behind a bare minim of 6 feet thick concrete walls w/ a sealed dual door vault.

See how silly it is when you beat the dead bush based off YOUR standards and not whats actually required by law.

 

[Fargo]

So you will be happy when they agree to store things the way that YOU deem fit? I demand YOUR guns be kept behind a bare minim of 6 feet thick concrete walls w/ a sealed dual door vault.

See how silly it is when you beat the dead bush based off YOUR standards and not whats actually required by law.

Demand what you want, I don't give a crap. I'm not the one on the national news for this.

Don't expect me to be onboard with a SOT3 behaving in this matter. I doubt they are going to have that status much longer either, so maybe you are right it is a dead bush!

If you really think that the "law" is a standard to responsibly live your life, I am sad for you.

 

[U.S. Patriot]

Demand what you want, I don't give a crap.

Don't expect me to be onboard with a SOT3 behaving in this matter. I doubt they are going to have that status much longer either, so maybe you are right it is a dead bush!

If you really think that the "law" is a standard to responsibly live your life, I am sad for you.

You need to look up the word hyprocrite.

 

[Fargo]

You need to look up the word hyprcrite.

So very very much fail. For whatever reason, I can't find that word.

Is it made up, like the positions you have ascribed to me?

 

[Trigger Time]

I can lockpick most of the padlocks on my property and all of my home deadbolts sometimes faster than using my keys.
It's very sad how incredibly easy it really is.

I bet you can't lock pick a good safe or even cut through it very fast without setting off all kinds of alarms. I know just a little about that subject (locks)

 

[U.S. Patriot]

So very very much fail. For whatever reason, I can't find that word.

Is it made up, like the positions you have ascribed to me?

You cought my mispselling, you are a sharp one. Your position is cleary stated.

 

[Fargo]

You cought my mispselling, you are a sharp one. Your position is cleary stated.

There is this funny thing called a "quote" button that lets you magically copy my posts into another.

Please go use it and quote where I called for prosecution, boycott, closing, revocation.

If you cant, STFU.

 

[skulhedface]

For those that don't really want to read through the last 10 pages of this:
There's no new info and Fargo's still mad about the trailer.

CLIFFORD EDWARD HELM, CLIFFORD HELM from IN Arrested or Booked on 2014-09-25 0:00 am Marion County Sheriff's Office

http://mugshots.company/booking/7478897/LINDA-PANKEN

 

[Fargo]

For those that don't really want to read through the last 10 pages of this:
There's no new info and Fargo's still mad about the trailer.

CLIFFORD EDWARD HELM, CLIFFORD HELM from IN Arrested or Booked on 2014-09-25 0:00 am Marion County Sheriff's Office

LINDA PANKEN, LINDA PANKEN from IN Arrested or Booked on 2014-09-25 0:00 am Marion County Sheriff's Office

Interesting, Helm is the only one charged with the guns and he is being held on 3 level 5's and one Level 6 felony. Some of those will probably jeopardy out or be mandatorily concurrent which leaves him looking at a pretty insignificant amount of time; off the top of my head probably not more that 3-6 actual years tops.

Hopefully the feds lower the boom.

 

[U.S. Patriot]

There is this funny thing called a "quote" button that lets you magically copy my posts into another.

Please go use it and quote where I called for prosecution, boycott, closing, revocation.

If you cant, STFU.

Don't get your panties in a bind. You seem to be a little upset. You clearly blame Profire for what happend. Maybe you should show me where I stated you were for prosecution, etc. You took what I said in a literal manner.

 

[irishfan]

Yeah or someone tossing a brick through a window and taking things out of the building, like a safe full of NFA items.

This is where you and others with this logic completely lose me. How with any common sense at all can you compare a tow behind trailer to a shop that "should" have an alarm also with a safe? In what world do you logically compare a trailer to a safe? This idea is as ridiculous as the actual idea of leaving them in an unprotected trailer.

 

[Titanium_Frost]

For those that don't really want to read through the last 10 pages of this:
There's no new info and Fargo's still mad about the trailer.

CLIFFORD EDWARD HELM, CLIFFORD HELM from IN Arrested or Booked on 2014-09-25 0:00 am Marion County Sheriff's Office

LINDA PANKEN, LINDA PANKEN from IN Arrested or Booked on 2014-09-25 0:00 am Marion County Sheriff's Office

I wish we could have an informational thread for those of us wanting to follow a very serious issue and a separate thread for the ones who want to spend all their time *****ing on the internet.

 

[Rookie]

Welcome to INGO!!! Are you new here?

 

[chezuki]

Interesting, Helm is the only one charged with the guns and he is being held on 3 level 5's and one Level 6 felony. Some of those will probably jeopardy out or be mandatorily concurrent which leaves him looking at a pretty insignificant amount of time; off the top of my head probably not more that 3-6 actual years tops.

Hopefully the feds lower the boom.

Preliminary charges. It's only going to get uglier.