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  • BigMoose

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    SB 77 Recreational use of throwing stars. Don't get excited, looks like crony capitalism to me. Authored by Liz Brown (NRA-PVF: D; KiA: F-) so I may oppose this just because. Changes the language from "Chinese Throwing Stars" to "Throwing Stars" (great work there Liz, people had been exploiting the Vietnamese, Korean, and Filipino Throwing Star loophole for years. Don't think I need purple for the sarcasm with that statement.)

    Recreational use of throwing stars. Allows a person who is at least 12 years of age to possess a throwing star for recreational purposes on certain business premises if particular requirements are met. Makes the violation of certain throwing star provisions a Class C misdemeanor


    What the? why did someone decide to make this overly complicated, does she really think ANYONE will set up throwing star.. alleys? Lanes? whatever.... umm what. The law on the books now is an ignored embarrassment, that at most is used when some cop decides to throw the book at some perp and happens to find one in their possesion.

    Its not rocket science, just leave this part, and nix everything else.

    SECTION 1. IC 35-31.5-2-41 IS REPEALED [EFFECTIVE JULY 2 1, 2023]. Sec. 41. "Chinese throwing star", for purposes of 3 IC 35-47-5-12, has the meaning set forth in IC 35-47-5-12(b).
     

    KellyinAvon

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    What the? why did someone decide to make this overly complicated, does she really think ANYONE will set up throwing star.. alleys? Lanes? whatever.... umm what. The law on the books now is an ignored embarrassment, that at most is used when some cop decides to throw the book at some perp and happens to find one in their possesion.

    Its not rocket science, just leave this part, and nix everything else.

    SECTION 1. IC 35-31.5-2-41 IS REPEALED [EFFECTIVE JULY 2 1, 2023]. Sec. 41. "Chinese throwing star", for purposes of 3 IC 35-47-5-12, has the meaning set forth in IC 35-47-5-12(b).
    Everything gets overly complicated when politics is involved.
     

    JEBland

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    chipbennett

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    I'm so sick of Police officers getting free passes that the average citizen gets a Felony charge if we do it.
    Such bills, and their myriad similar provisions in other bills, are a prima facie violation of the Equal Protection clause. Being a police officer does not confer special rights and privileges, outside of the specific role of law enforcement. Period.

    No more of this.
     

    KellyinAvon

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    Some bills on the House side up this morning. HB 1117 protection of 2A needs a full read. Looks like sanctuary county state wide at first glance
     

    Timjoebillybob

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    Nope, 16 is the age of consent in IN regardless the age of their partner as long as they are also 16 or older. There is something like this for 14-15 yr olds if their partner is within a couple of years and they are in an ongoing (non-family) relation.
    One would hope, but this bill wouldn't legalize selling just possession of under an ounce. The change in DUI law would be a good thing though, if someone partakes in a legal state a week before and a LEO hauls them in for a blood test a week later under the current law they are up the creek.
    ETA This bill would have IN joining its neighboring states (and others) though. If the feds remove it from the schedule that is.
    This one is interesting. HOAs (and seed patent owners) will not be pleased:
    HOAs still wouldn't be effected. And probably not the seed patent owners, at least not the GMO ones which I believe generally have a contract with the purchaser regarding use and saving seeds.
    (e) Nothing in subsection (a) may impair the terms of a lease or
    contract, including the governing documents (as defined by
    IC 32-25.5-2-3) of a homeowners association.
     
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    chipbennett

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    HOAs still wouldn't be effected. And probably not the seed patent owners, at least not the GMO ones which I believe generally have a contract with the purchaser regarding use and saving seeds.
    (e) Nothing in subsection (a) may impair the terms of a lease or
    contract, including the governing documents (as defined by
    IC 32-25.5-2-3) of a homeowners association.
    I could see that coming into conflict, where Covenants restrict what is otherwise construed/protected as a right under state statute.
     
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