17 year old kid shot dead by Neighborhood Watch "Captain" Part 2

[Expat]

Proves? After the mauling she and her testimony took here, I'm kinda surprised anyone is using anything she said as "proof" of anything. Do we really think the word of an admitted liar alone is proof of anything?

Joe

It may "prove" nothing. But I personally think that what she says now is likely more truthful than what she might have said with the coaching of the State's attorney while on the witness stand. Especially "facts" that aren't self serving or supportive of "the official" anti-GZ narrative that they are trying to put out there.

 

[Fargo]

It may "prove" nothing. But I personally think that what she says now is likely more truthful than what she might have said with the coaching of the State's attorney while on the witness stand. Especially "facts" that aren't self serving or supportive of "the official" anti-GZ narrative that they are trying to put out there.

Maybe she is being more truthy now that before, it is certainly possible/probable. Either way, I don't take a word she says to mean much of anything. She has gone through so many different stories by this point that I doubt she remembers which one really happened.

Best,


Joe

 

[Roadie]

Proves? After the mauling she and her testimony took here, I'm kinda surprised anyone is using anything she said as "proof" of anything. Do we really think the word of an admitted liar alone is proof of anything?

Joe

mea culpa. Take out "proves" replace it with "suggests" .. better?

 

[El-Cigarro]

There's only one of those that does apply to me. At 17, I was already known for letting the bird out of its cage.

Grandma loved that Parakeet. Shame on you!

 

[Fargo]

Yes, it does absolutely suggest that. I think it is probable he did hook back.

Best,

Joe

 

[jamil]

Maybe she is being more truthy now that before, it is certainly possible/probable. Either way, I don't take a word she says to mean much of anything. She has gone through so many different stories by this point that I doubt she remembers which one really happened.

Best,


Joe

That's the thing. I didn't think the way she presented herself or talked discredited her. Maybe she has a hard time communicating with people outside of her culture, but she was on the phone with T just before he was shot, and therefor knows some facts important to the case.

After she admitted to changing her story to make the family feel better, THAT disqualified her as a credible witness. Anything she says now, especially especially favorable to T is suspect.

 

[Fargo]

That's the thing. I didn't think the way she presented herself or talked discredited her. Maybe she has a hard time communicating with people outside of her culture, but she was on the phone with T just before he was shot, and therefor knows some facts important to the case.

After she admitted to changing her story to make the family feel better, THAT disqualified her as a credible witness. Anything she says now, especially especially favorable to T is suspect.

I agree with you. Unlike many, I didn't really expect a teenage Haitian immigrant to come off as some sort of distinguished academic scholar and I don't fault her for that in any way. It is the continuously varying story that makes me discount much of what she says.

Best,

Joe

 

[armedindy]

I agree with you. Unlike many, I didn't really expect a teenage Haitian immigrant to come off as some sort of distinguished academic scholar and I don't fault her for that in any way. It is the continuously varying story that makes me discount much of what she says.

Best,

Joe

That and her sympathy for the parents, which was an admitted reason for lying originally...if shell lie to make the mother feel better once, i bet shed do it a thousand times

 

[Roadie]

That and her sympathy for the parents, which was an admitted reason for lying originally...if shell lie to make the mother feel better once, i bet shed do it a thousand times

Apparently their feelings arent so important to her now, based on what she has been saying in interviews..

 

[Bunnykid68]

Apparently their feelings arent so important to her now, based on what she has been saying in interviews..

Yep, now she is getting paid to speak her mind and no court telling her she has too.

 

[Bummer]

.. I didn't really expect a teenage Haitian immigrant ...

According to everything I've been able to find, Rachel Jeantel was born and raised in Miami. Her mother is Haitian.

 

[KG1]

According to everything I've been able to find, Rachel Jeantel was born and raised in Miami. Her mother is Haitian.

Are you implying that Fargo got his facts wrong?

 

[Bummer]

Are you implying that Fargo got his facts wrong?

Perish the thought!

It occurred to me that she didn't actually seem to have an accent, so I Googled for Rachel Jeantel biography. Everything that actually mentioned "..born in..." said Miami. In testimony she said that she met Martin in the second grade, which lends credence to the reports I've read. Of course I haven't seen her Birth Certificate. Perhaps Sheriff Arpaio can launch an investigation.

 

[IndyDave1776]

Perish the thought!

It occurred to me that she didn't actually seem to have an accent, so I Googled for Rachel Jeantel biography. Everything that actually mentioned "..born in..." said Miami. In testimony she said that she met Martin in the second grade, which lends credence to the reports I've read. Of course I haven't seen her Birth Certificate. Perhaps Sheriff Arpaio can launch an investigation.

I see your point, but I am with Sheriff Joe on this one. Too many questions unanswered and I will give the Kenyan the benefit of the doubt as soon as I get the benefit of the doubt when the shoe is on the other foot with anything requiring .gov permission, like the fingerprinting and FBI background check I will have to have done for the third time when I get my drivers license renewed with the hazmat endorsement. You do understand that you just can't have dangerous people like me allowed in the position unsupervised to destroy the universe with a truckload of road tar!

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

I see your point, but I am with Sheriff Joe on this one. Too many questions unanswered and I will give the Kenyan the benefit of the doubt as soon as I get the benefit of the doubt when the shoe is on the other foot with anything requiring .gov permission, like the fingerprinting and FBI background check I will have to have done for the third time when I get my drivers license renewed with the hazmat endorsement. You do understand that you just can't have dangerous people like me allowed in the position unsupervised to destroy the universe with a truckload of road tar!

Well...chyeah. We gotta think of the children.

 

[Bunnykid68]

I see your point, but I am with Sheriff Joe on this one. Too many questions unanswered and I will give the Kenyan the benefit of the doubt as soon as I get the benefit of the doubt when the shoe is on the other foot with anything requiring .gov permission, like the fingerprinting and FBI background check I will have to have done for the third time when I get my drivers license renewed with the hazmat endorsement. You do understand that you just can't have dangerous people like me allowed in the position unsupervised to destroy the universe with a truckload of road tar!

We all know if you were not properly vetted and licensed regularly you would be spraying that stuff all over small children and playgrounds across the nation

 

[IndyDave1776]

We all know if you were not properly vetted and licensed regularly you would be spraying that stuff all over small children and playgrounds across the nation

Yes, I know, but at the same time we turn Dumbo the Big Eared Kenyan loose with nukes!

 

[churchmouse]

Yes, I know, but at the same time we turn Dumbo the Big Eared Kenyan loose with nukes!

I am going to use this line with your permission.

It should get me into a few very solid fist fights where I intend to use it...................................

 

[IndyDave1776]

I am going to use this line with your permission.

It should get me into a few very solid fist fights where I intend to use it...................................

Have all the fun you can with it!

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

Yes, I know, but at the same time we turn Dumbo the Big Eared Kenyan loose with nukes!

I laughed at that. Was that wrong?

I would have repped you too. But apparently, now I have to spread it around to the rest of INGO before I can rep you again.