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[Timjoebillybob]

Or if the deputy just did his job and asked the guy if he what I said he did…..you know do some investigating

I’m fairly confident that the person admitted what he did to the deputy, deputy just didn’t care to enforce the law.

You do know there are very few "Must enforce" laws on the books right? They have discretion on enforcing almost everything, only ones I can think of off hand that they don't have discretion on is OWI and domestic violence. And domestic violence is one of the very few misdemeanors they can arrest without actually witnessing it. So the officer was well within his rights and probably the rules of his boss by not enforcing it. I'm sure his job description doesn't include enforcing every misdemeanor that gets reported. And once again he couldn't do anything to the guy right then and there.

And if you're fairly confident the guy admitted what he did to the deputy, wouldn't that constitute him doing his job and asking the guy?

And do you think he admitted to intentionally or knowingly interfering with your hunt? You could have been out in the woods for a variety of reasons.

 

[rooster]

You do know there are very few "Must enforce" laws on the books right? They have discretion on enforcing almost everything, only ones I can think of off hand that they don't have discretion on is OWI and domestic violence. And domestic violence is one of the very few misdemeanors they can arrest without actually witnessing it. So the officer was well within his rights and probably the rules of his boss by not enforcing it. I'm sure his job description doesn't include enforcing every misdemeanor that gets reported. And once again he couldn't do anything to the guy right then and there.

And if you're fairly confident the guy admitted what he did to the deputy, wouldn't that constitute him doing his job and asking the guy?

And do you think he admitted to intentionally or knowingly interfering with your hunt? You could have been out in the woods for a variety of reasons.

if I **** in your cheerios and the cop who shows up tells you to move your bowl………..

Im sure this is the tune you would be singing

 

[Frosty]

if I **** in your cheerios and the cop who shows up tells you to move your bowl………..

Im sure this is the tune you would be singing

If he parked his bowl blocking the path to the urinal he wouldn’t have a whole lot of reason to gripe about it would he?

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

I think we've covered this on INGO multiple times. It does not matter. This is not an issue of establishing probable cause. An officer must witness it, period. If not, no outright arrest is legal. A PC must be presented to a judge for a warrant. If an arrest warrant is granted, THEN an arrest can be made.

Ok

 

[rooster]

I think we've covered this on INGO multiple times. It does not matter. This is not an issue of establishing probable cause. An officer must witness it, period. If not, no outright arrest is legal. A PC must be presented to a judge for a warrant. If an arrest warrant is granted, THEN an arrest can be made.

I seem to remember the prosecutor and judge in a jury I say instructing the jury that eyewitness testimony was all that is required for a felony conviction……

I’m sure they didn’t know what they were talking about though.

 

[Hatin Since 87]

a jury I was eventually dismissed from

I bet I have a good idea why

 

[rooster]

I bet I have a good idea why

ya apparently I have a hard time disguising my disgust for pedo’s.

 

[Jaybird1980]

I seem to remember the prosecutor and judge in a jury I was eventually dismissed from instructing the jury that eyewitness testimony was all that is required for a felony conviction……

I’m sure they didn’t know what they were talking about though.

What does a felony conviction have to do with the manner of arrest?

 

[DoggyDaddy]

What does a felony conviction have to do with the manner of arrest?

And what does a felony conviction have to do with a misdemeanor offense?

 

[Jaybird1980]

And what does a felony conviction have to do with a misdemeanor offense?

That's a good point as well

 

[DoggyDaddy]

Morale of the story: if you have issues hunting call DNR even if it’s seems like an unsafe situation. Local PD might just make it worse.


What say you INGO? Do you want the easy solution or the one consistent with the law?


More context to come later. Someone else broke the law and ruined my hunt.they Walked down a logging road on public property yelling about how I was on private road/property and just otherwise intentionally being loud to ruin my hunt. Responding officer was a gem who told me he wasn’t going to do anything about the hunter harassment because that wasn’t the easy solution. It’s not normal for me to want to film police interaction but when I saw this going sideways and the officer got aggressive I thought it might be in my best interest.

why have LEO’s if they won’t give you a solution consistent with the law?

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Was there something preventing you from pulling forward so you weren't partially blocking what appeared to be an access point to the road?

 

[BehindBlueI's]

I seem to remember the prosecutor and judge in a jury I was eventually dismissed from instructing the jury that eyewitness testimony was all that is required for a felony conviction……

I’m sure they didn’t know what they were talking about though.

And it's completely irrelevant to what I said. Again, probable cause has nothing to do with misdemeanor arrest rules. It is NOT A MATTER OF EVIDENCE. It IS NOT ABOUT IF THE COP BELIEVES YOU. The suspct can admit to it at the scene and it does not matter. It is *the law* that an outright arrest can't be made for non-exception misdemeanors that a sworn officer does not personally witness. Only warrant arrests are allowable for non-witnessed non-exception misdemeanors.

If you're going to be a ****, at least know what you're talking about.

 

[qwerty]

And it's completely irrelevant to what I said. Again, probable cause has nothing to do with misdemeanor arrest rules. It is NOT A MATTER OF EVIDENCE. It IS NOT ABOUT IF THE COP BELIEVES YOU. The suspct can admit to it at the scene and it does not matter. It is *the law* that an outright arrest can't be made for non-exception misdemeanors that a sworn officer does not personally witness. Only warrant arrests are allowable for non-witnessed non-exception misdemeanors.

If you're going to be a ****, at least know what you're talking about.

And then there is that truthful and credible part too.....

 

[BehindBlueI's]

Indiana Code Title 35. Criminal Law and Procedure § 35-33-1-1 | FindLaw

Indiana Title 35. Criminal Law and Procedure Section 35-33-1-1. Read the code on FindLaw

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Layman's version: https://cardellalawoffice.com/student-information/search-and-seizure/misdemeanor-arrest-rule/

for those who would like to understand arrest laws for the state.

Funny how the "ACAB" guy wants the police to ignore the law when it's for something he wants.

 

[Jaybird1980]

Indiana Code Title 35. Criminal Law and Procedure § 35-33-1-1 | FindLaw

Indiana Title 35. Criminal Law and Procedure Section 35-33-1-1. Read the code on FindLaw

codes.findlaw.com

Layman's version: https://cardellalawoffice.com/student-information/search-and-seizure/misdemeanor-arrest-rule/

for those who would like to understand arrest laws for the state.

Funny how the "ACAB" guy wants the police to ignore the law when it's for something he wants.

Oh the irony is strong.

 

[Leadeye]

I have two neighbors that have blinds 10 yards from the fence line. I know they hunt on my ground, but there's not a lot I can do about it. During gun season I want to be hunting instead of patrolling, so the gardener usually takes a run on the ridge on her ATV if she hears shots to see if they are dragging deer back across the line.

Generally I have less trouble during deer season from hunters in the HNF, it a long way to drag a deer back to the access point and they are scared of the drug dealers.

 

[rooster]

Lots of public land hunters and law&order types here. Some of y’all have more in common with the blue haired antifa rioters than you want to admit.

Funny how the "ACAB" guy wants the police to ignore the law when it's for something he wants.

Nothing in that says that guy can’t or shouldn’t be charged. The officer refused, hence cops are useless. This one in particular was more useless than **** on a bull. A Leo had a chance to uphold the law and not be a jackass but choose to do what was “easy” per his own words.

If it’s an unarrestable offense then maybe take a minute to inform the injured party of that instead of using aggressive tactics to further harm the injured party.

Police have a public image problem and this guys sound bite isnt gonna help it any.

 

[DoggyDaddy]

A Leo had a chance to uphold the law and not be useless but choose to do what was “easy” per his own words.

Looked to me like he could have upheld the law and had your vehicle towed for blocking access to a public road. You would've been cool with that, right?

 

[qwerty]

 

[rooster]

Looked to me like he could have upheld the law and had your vehicle towed for blocking access to a public road. You would've been cool with that, right?

Not a public road stop talking out your ass