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Several years ago, I mowed yards as a sideline income. Working 7am to 3:30 pm, I would take my mowers, string trimmer, leaf blower, to work on my trailer, and earn $100 on the way home from work. You can't do that by mowing grass at 5 am...
I know several that were able to start a business that way. Can’t do that with with early sunsets…
9:30 would be quitting time only on the few long days around the summer solstice because sunset is, at the latest 9:16. 10:30 is dark…
Let's say the lawn mowing season goes from 01 May - 30 September. Let's further say that lawn mowing without artificial light can safely take place through the extent of civil twilight. (It is likely somewhere into nautical twilight, realistically.)
Indianapolis:
01 May: EDT civil twilight ends at 9:08pm = 5.5 post-work hours w/light
31 Aug: EDT civil twilight ends at 8:44pm = 5 post-work hours w/light (edit: looked at the wrong date)
30 Sep: EDT civil twilight ends at 7:54pm = 4.5 post-work hours w/light
Those are the minimums.
Remove DST, and you would still have, minimum, 3.5 hours with light after work. That's not enough time for a yard work side hustle?
(Where did the "reason for edit" field go? I edited this to reflect 01 May - 30 Sep as the lawn-mowing season. I was debating whether lawn-mowing season was May - Aug or May - Sep. Post now shows both, just to make sure I show a reasonable worst-case at either extreme.)
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Nope. At peak season, nautical twilight ends at 10:30. Astronomical twilight ("dark") doesn't end until 11:18.
It is still too dark to work. We were discussing mowing and light on the ground, not in the sky. And it is called nautical twilight for a reason it is most viewable on the water, the June sky on Lake Michigan is truly amazing if one gets away from cities light pollution.
And again peak season is not very long, maybe 60 days…
Whether or not it's too dark to work depends on a lot of factors. It might be. It might not be. And as I pointed out in an earlier comment, even at the extreme ends of lawn-mowing season, without DST, there would still be 4+ hours of light (through civil twilight) for an after-work side hustle for someone doing 7a - 3:30p shift work.
If I want to sit around my fire pit in the summer, i prefer it to be dark. i wanted to get some glow toys for the swimming pool this summer, but it won't be dark early enough for the grandkids to play. Fireworks don't start until around 10pm around the 4th of July.
For many people doing yardwork (mowing, landscaping, etc.) it is not a side hustle. They need that extra time and income to support a family.
You want to change the circumstance for everybody just to get what you wantPeople say I should just buy outdoor lights. **** that. Why don’t you just pull the shade down?
The others say, why not just change only your own circumstance and leave everybody else out of it
How does that make it not a side hustle? The very reason that people have side hustles is to help make ends meet.
And what does that have to do with anything, anyway?
And you want to change the circumstance for everybody just to get what you want.
The fact remains: by definition, a time-shifting for Daylight Saving Time is the change in circumstance. Standard Time is the default circumstance.
Pulling a shade in a single room does not signal your body to start shutting down as a proper sunset does.People say I should just buy outdoor lights. **** that. Why don’t you just pull the shade down?
It is hardly a side hustle for someone who owns a landscaping service or works fulltime during the season.
It has to do with you declaring that the extra 1 - 2 hours someone might work is insignificant.
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