You are right that is the demarcation line, cyclists have equal right to the roadway but motorists believe they have a superior right.
Please show me in the law that they “have superior rights”?
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Why the hate for Cyclists?
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Please show me in the law that they “have superior rights”?
All we have to do is ask permission from Al Gore. It's his internet.
It's been well-covered in this thread already.
You almost had me persuaded to your side of all the political arguments until you pasted this. Nothing screams closet liberal more than "after 30 years of cycling"Short answer, NO. Funny you should ask that. A few posts back I said ”It doesn’t matter what cyclists do, motorists will complain”. I say that after 30 years of cycling. Now as much as they complain about cyclists on the road, just watch how loud they complain about the building of bike routes. Several threads on that topic here.
The other thing I chuckle about is there are other permissible roadway uses, farm equipment, and my favorite, moving herds of animals. It would blow the mind of these complainers if people were moving their livestock while others were racing home to their McMansion after work several times a year.
Never see Trump on a bicycle. See Biden on one all the time...even if it's rodeo style for 8 sec or less
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Timjoebillybob
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Why should bicyclists get to treat a stop sign as a yield?
Perhaps they should change the law, no groups of more than 4 bicyclists allowed?
Yes, the Constitution including the 2a is simply a group of laws.
Not trying to answer for BBI, but for myself yes I do occasionally. Especially when their pain comes from their own stupidity. Hell I've gotten amusement from my own pain, at least after it stops hurting.
Hatin Since 87
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Nothing tops this mental image.
Other than maybe congress dressed up as rodeo clowns to save him.
Hatin Since 87
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So next question.
If we built bike paths, would it be acceptable if bikes were no longer legal to use roadways, and bike paths only? That would give cyclists their own, safe path to ride on, and give motor vehicles their unadultered roadway to drive on.
Would that be fair compromise?
If we built bike paths, would it be acceptable if bikes were no longer legal to use roadways, and bike paths only? That would give cyclists their own, safe path to ride on, and give motor vehicles their unadultered roadway to drive on.
Would that be fair compromise?
You'd literally have to have bike paths going everywhere that roads go now. I don't think that'd be practical.
AndreusMaximus
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Well, unlike @chipbennett I don't see motor vehicles as having superior rights at all. That wasn't what I was trying to say. What I'm trying to say is that roads have a practical purpose, and that purpose will be best served if people get out on the road with the attitude of "How can I make my use of the road the safest, most efficient, and most respectful of other people's time, as reasonably possible?" and not "How can I assert my absolute right to use the road just as much as anyone else?"
Don't get me wrong, lots of motorists fail at having the right attitude, too. Every group of people has its bad apples; what puzzles me about cyclists isn't the fact that bad apples exist, but how so many cyclists seem to be in complete denial that anyone on a bicycle could ever do anything rude or inconsiderate ever.
I actually think I have learned a lot from this thread. Especially regarding the answer to the question I asked in the title.
Sure, as soon as they go everywhere roads do.
I am going with Newton's Third Law of Motion.
As a former road cyclist, I was VERY respectful of cars...along with dogs, people, sticks, rocks, etc.
You mean you didn't see a pothole and say to yourself, "Hey pothole! I have as much of a right to be in the road as you do! I'm going to ride right over you!"
A couple of points for consideration.
A big disconnect is that many motorists describe safe practical riding as “rude and or inconsiderate”. I get it, no one wants someone up in their way holding them up for even a second. So in that context many riders, since most vehicle drivers are accusing cyclists as you describe, are reflexively responding to complaints defensively.
If you want to be selfish and not share the road you can pay for the bike lanes or share…
Well I for one get damn tired of having to look up from my phone every time I see a group of cyclist. They are worse than squirrels .... you never know which way they're going?
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