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  • DoggyDaddy

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    The ones not inclined to troublemaking don't live in tent camps indefinitely.

    Personally I think we should bus them to the libs.
    The ones living in tent camps indefinitely are not the ones sheltering at Wheeler. And "bus them to the libs"? That's where they are! (Bloomington) It sounds like you have nothing to complain about. Your plan has worked perfectly! :)
     

    GodFearinGunTotin

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    That’s why it should be tackled by private money and not government money. Private money can evaluate the need and say “no” when required.
    Agreed. Forcibly taking from others in the form of taxation is not charity. Charities that have to mind every penny tend to be pretty good stewards of where that money goes. Government acting in the place of charities…not so much.
     

    Wanderer

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    I honestly didn't even know we had a new mayor until seeing this thread, that's how little of an impact the mayoral elections have here (the winner is always a D, of course). However, while reading a recent article about the thread subject, I was shocked to see she'd actually said something sensible about the homeless issue:

    Thomson said the biggest challenge is providing the physical housing to get people of the streets. The other part of that is getting them access to long-term mental health treatment which she says has been lacking since the closure of state mental institutions.

    “Since the Reagan-era, when we shut down our large state hospitals…there’s simply no place to go if you need long-term care,” Thomson said. “What we’ve done is dismantle the care, flawed as it was, and we’ve left people on the streets.”
    https://fox59.com/news/bloomingtons...ess-is-top-priority-following-recent-murders/

    Despite the obligatory Democrat jab at Reagan, I've been thinking pretty much the same thing for a long while. I guess it's true what they say about broken clocks.
     

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    Despite the obligatory Democrat jab at Reagan, I've been thinking pretty much the same thing for a long while. I guess it's true what they say about broken clocks.
    Clayton Cramer, he of 2nd amendment scholarship fame (altho I suspect a lot of folks don’t know of his contributions), covered deinstitutionalization in his book:

    My Brother Ron: A Personal and Social History of the Deinstitutionalization of the Mentally Ill https://a.co/d/4XAX5Qd

    Yes, it wasn’t an Reagan initiative, he was just governor of California and later President when the mental health industry decided that state mental institutions were cruel and unusual punishment, and patients should be “mainstreamed” and treated at neighborhood clinics. Also the legal ability to forcibly commit people got substantially restricted. There were congressional hearings on the subject and it became the national fad and the feds started dumping it money.

    State governments looking for places to cut budget said, “Ok, closing the state asylums will save our $$, so let’s close them.” The idea was mentally ill should be mainstreamed and treated at neighborhood clinics. What happened though was the focus of psychiatry/psychology, and the clinics that were set up shifted to a different set of lesser but more pervasive mental problems, and the people who were truly incapable of making rational decisions got shunted to the streets, without anything replacing the commitment laws and asylums to deal with them.

    There were some awful things that happened in asylums, and no doubt some people wrongly committed, but I think it’s hard to argue that they or the rest of us are better off today.

    I believe it was Cramer that calculated the incarceration rates around 1900 and then again at the time he wrote the book which I believe was the late 90s or early 2000. If you look at the rate of imprisonment, we imprison people at a much higher rate nowadays than we did in the early 1900s. But if you include both of those housed in mental asylums and prisons during the early 1900s and compared to today’s asylums plus prison, the rate is actually pretty much the same. we’ve just moved the seriously mentally ill from asylums into prisons via the street and judicial process.
     

    Ingomike

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    Clayton Cramer, he of 2nd amendment scholarship fame (altho I suspect a lot of folks don’t know of his contributions), covered deinstitutionalization in his book:

    My Brother Ron: A Personal and Social History of the Deinstitutionalization of the Mentally Ill https://a.co/d/4XAX5Qd

    Yes, it wasn’t an Reagan initiative, he was just governor of California and later President when the mental health industry decided that state mental institutions were cruel and unusual punishment, and patients should be “mainstreamed” and treated at neighborhood clinics. Also the legal ability to forcibly commit people got substantially restricted. There were congressional hearings on the subject and it became the national fad and the feds started dumping it money.

    State governments looking for places to cut budget said, “Ok, closing the state asylums will save our $$, so let’s close them.” The idea was mentally ill should be mainstreamed and treated at neighborhood clinics. What happened though was the focus of psychiatry/psychology, and the clinics that were set up shifted to a different set of lesser but more pervasive mental problems, and the people who were truly incapable of making rational decisions got shunted to the streets, without anything replacing the commitment laws and asylums to deal with them.

    There were some awful things that happened in asylums, and no doubt some people wrongly committed, but I think it’s hard to argue that they or the rest of us are better off today.

    I believe it was Cramer that calculated the incarceration rates around 1900 and then again at the time he wrote the book which I believe was the late 90s or early 2000. If you look at the rate of imprisonment, we imprison people at a much higher rate nowadays than we did in the early 1900s. But if you include both of those housed in mental asylums and prisons during the early 1900s and compared to today’s asylums plus prison, the rate is actually pretty much the same. we’ve just moved the seriously mentally ill from asylums into prisons via the street and judicial process.
    Thats good
     

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    Let's get this thread back on track: Time to continue bashing the left-wing crazy Bloomington mayor: https://www.facebook.com/citybloomington Please let your feelings be known and don't leave anything out!

    Yeah, that is SO bloomington to assume all effected constituents are facebookers?

    Bet they think all phones are iPhones too?

    ...and vegan...


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    actaeon277

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    I suggested this when a friend bemoaned all the room in churches that goes “unused” 6 days a week. I suggested he (and the other folks liking his post) probably had a couple of spare bedrooms in their homes that aren’t being used—be the change you want to see in others. Got unfriended.


    People don't want to see their own hypocrisy.
    And solutions, are only for OTHER people. Not themselves.
     

    MCgrease08

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    Thankfully Bloomington is tackling the important issues. Like making sure bars are forced to have Closed Captioning on their TVs.

    This is supposed to be "inclusive" for deaf people, but when sports are on TV at bars, the sound is already off for everyone.

     

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    Thankfully Bloomington is tackling the important issues. Like making sure bars are forced to have Closed Captioning on their TVs.

    This is supposed to be "inclusive" for deaf people, but when sports are on TV at bars, the sound is already off for everyone.

    Sad that you can’t enlarge the text size to take up the entire screen.
     

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