The Insane "Social Justice" Thread pt IV

[actaeon277]

If I ever find myself in agreement with her, I would have to reevaluate myself.

 

[DadSmith]

If I ever find myself in agreement with her, I would have to reevaluate myself.

 

[2tonic]

Well thanks.....there's 5 minutes of my life I'll never get back....not to mention the 50 IQ points I had to shed, just to stay at her level.

She needs to go get a hernia exam.

 

[Dr.Midnight]

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[jwamplerusa]

It just p***** me off she wastes the oxygen the rest of us need to breathe.

 

[jamil]

WTF? Sex testing? No one at any point had any doubts that Thomas is a dude. No tests required. If you were born with a dick, you can't play women's sports. It's that simple. You can put that question on the application. The truth will come out if you lied on your application. Women in locker rooms will notice if one of the "chicks" has a dick.

 

[oze]

Stupid **** *****. Sooner or later there will be a reckoning of all these sick moronic pieces of ****.

I wish I had your faith.

 

[ZZZZZZZZZZZ]

Looks to me like the Republicans are the party of "Just us" while 25% of us fight for a little Justice.

 

[jamil]

Looks to me like the Republicans are the party of "Just us" while 25% of us fight for a little Justice.

I mean. You guys drop in from time to time. Not that I'm a fan of Republicans generally. What justice do you think you're fighting for? I'm curious.

 

[ZZZZZZZZZZZ]

I mean. You guys drop in from time to time. Not that I'm a fan of Republicans generally. What justice do you think you're fighting for? I'm curious.

The justice that the constitution is supposed to give us but does not because the courts have decided that equity should take a back seat to power. We have created an underclass in this country that wasn't supposed to exist. We have the largest per capita population of prisoners in the world. We are still a slave country.

 

[jamil]

The justice that the constitution is supposed to give us but does not because the courts have decided that equity should take a back seat to power. We have created an underclass in this country that wasn't supposed to exist. We have the largest per capita population of prisoners in the world. We are still a slave country.

Equity is not found in the constitution. The constitution does not guarantee equality of outcomes. At best it tries to set up equal opportunity, but even that is impossible because success is usually mostly about ability. And people don't have equal ability.

So what underclass are you referring to? Who and in what way are people slaves?

 

[DoggyDaddy]

Ahh... it smells like "victimhood" in here...

 

[jamil]

More oppression Olympics.

 

[oze]

The justice that the constitution is supposed to give us but does not because the courts have decided that equity should take a back seat to power. We have created an underclass in this country that wasn't supposed to exist. We have the largest per capita population of prisoners in the world. We are still a slave country.

What do you propose that the United States do with its criminals? I eagerly await your reply.

 

[JEBland]

We have the largest per capita population of prisoners in the world. We are still a slave country.

The problem with this is that it doesn't actually account for you know... frequency of crimes. What's the ideal per capita population of prisoners? Surely it would depend on well offending rates. In short: You're mixing up cause and effect.

Social justice is largely gibberish. Justice that is not individualized isn't justice, it's merely asking to implement explicit [racial/sexual/etc] discrimination.

The primary example for that I keep on hand for criminal social justice is this:

• A stat that I've heard a few times (but admittedly not verified) is that women of color are 4 times more likely to be sexually assaulted than white women (insert some snide remark about clutching pearls).
• Then, the abolish the police/ abolish prison folks advocate not enforcing laws, including laws regarding violent crimes for "racial justice" purposes. So we are not protecting black & Latina women, but also refuse to prosecute black & Latino perpetrators for "racial justice" purposes.
• This isn't just some right-wing claptrap. The city of Baltimore released a list of crimes that the would reduce enforcement of because the accused were not proportional to the races of the population, including, you guessed it, rape & sexual assault.

There are certainly improvements we can make in our system, but cherry-picked statistics without any actual discussion is not particularly useful. Most of these social justice claims are at best far more nuanced when investigated or proven to be outright nonsense. A couple examples:

• Racial bias in education: Since the mid 90s racial discrimination has at most a couple percent of the average difference between racial groups. Socioeconomic status and hours spent studying outside the classroom explain almost the entirety of the difference in average performance of racial groups with just those two factors accounted for.
• In terms of income and establishing oneself in this country. There are bigger financial gaps within "broad" ethnic groups than between ethnic groups. Recent immigrants from Ghana, Nigeria, and the Caribbean are doing quite well in America. We can wave our hands away with "immigrant pluck" comments, but the plain and simple truth is that pluck is a dedicated pressure from family to succeed in this life. (Why is broad in quotes? I mean, what the heck is an Asian? Chinese, Indians, Laotians, North Koreans, South Koreans, Japanese, Burmese, and Malaysians are all the same?)

You've been severely mislead by complicated social issues and been given empty promises labeled as solutions.

 

[jamil]

The problem with this is that it doesn't actually account for you know... frequency of crimes. What's the ideal per capita population of prisoners? Surely it would depend on well offending rates. In short: You're mixing up cause and effect.

Social justice is largely gibberish. Justice that is not individualized isn't justice, it's merely asking to implement explicit [racial/sexual/etc] discrimination.

The primary example for that I keep on hand for criminal social justice is this:

• A stat that I've heard a few times (but admittedly not verified) is that women of color are 4 times more likely to be sexually assaulted than white women (insert some snide remark about clutching pearls).
• Then, the abolish the police/ abolish prison folks advocate not enforcing laws, including laws regarding violent crimes for "racial justice" purposes. So we are not protecting black & Latina women, but also refuse to prosecute black & Latino perpetrators for "racial justice" purposes.
• This isn't just some right-wing claptrap. The city of Baltimore released a list of crimes that the would reduce enforcement of because the accused were not proportional to the races of the population, including, you guessed it, rape & sexual assault.

There are certainly improvements we can make in our system, but cherry-picked statistics without any actual discussion is not particularly useful. Most of these social justice claims are at best far more nuanced when investigated or proven to be outright nonsense. A couple examples:

• Racial bias in education: Since the mid 90s racial discrimination has at most a couple percent of the average difference between racial groups. Socioeconomic status and hours spent studying outside the classroom explain almost the entirety of the difference in average performance of racial groups with just those two factors accounted for.
• In terms of income and establishing oneself in this country. There are bigger financial gaps within "broad" ethnic groups than between ethnic groups. Recent immigrants from Ghana, Nigeria, and the Caribbean are doing quite well in America. We can wave our hands away with "immigrant pluck" comments, but the plain and simple truth is that pluck is a dedicated pressure from family to succeed in this life. (Why is broad in quotes? I mean, what the heck is an Asian? Chinese, Indians, Laotians, North Koreans, South Koreans, Japanese, Burmese, and Malaysians are all the same?)

You've been severely mislead by complicated social issues and been given empty promises labeled as solutions.

I think this is well summarized in the statement “Social justice is largely gibberish.’

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

The justice that the constitution is supposed to give us but does not because the courts have decided that equity should take a back seat to power.

I know he’s banned now but this…is another example of how public schools have failed.

 

[oze]

I know he’s banned now but this…is another example of how public schools have failed.

His status is still "Plinker" as far as I can tell.

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

His status is still "Plinker" as far as I can tell.

His username has a line through now. That’s how you can tell.

 

[jwamplerusa]

His username has a line through now. That’s how you can tell.

Not on my phone. It just looks as normal. Shooter would probably help