Two bodies found in Carroll County

[Keith_Indy]

Defense attorneys only have to create reasonable doubt in one jurors mind to get an acquittal.

 

[Alamo]

Wait until you see his picture…

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Horrifying.

Notice the beard… looks very Odinish.

I’m so tempted to photoshop a coffee mug with u-kno-wat written on it into that hand but I’m lazy working on my retirement skills. Or DHS will see it and raid his office.

Anyway, all the prosecution has to do now is show the defendant had Odinist connections, and boom - hoisted on his lawyer‘s petard.

 

[printcraft]

Not the glasses... Its the red shirt and specifically, the way the stripes are oriented on the tie. That's the give away.

Not only that, see the cut on the middle finger of the hand?
Self flagellation signifies oneness with Valhalla.

 

[KLB]

Defense attorneys only have to create reasonable doubt in one jurors mind to get an acquittal.

I'm pretty sure that just gets them a hung jury and possibly a new trial.

 

[BiscuitsandGravy]

Not only that, see the cut on the middle finger of the left hand?
Self flagellation signifies oneness with Valhalla.

I wasn't going to say anything but, like yea, its obvious.

 

[Hawkeye]

Defense attorneys only have to create reasonable doubt in one jurors mind to get an acquittal.

No. That denies a verdict of guilty. An acquittal is 12 jurors saying not guilty. One juror saying not guilty is a hung jury. And the prosecution can take another swing at a new trial and new jury.

 

[wcd]

Made Lefist Media Outlet

Girls killed in Delphi murders were sacrificed in pagan cult ritual, defense claims

Attorneys for Richard Allen, the prime suspect in the 2017 murders of two girls in Delphi, Indiana, are now claiming the girls died in a "ritualistic sacrifice."

www.foxnews.com

Fixed,it

 

[indyartisan]

I have now read and re-read the 136 page filing. There is something odd about the way it is written, but that's neither here nor there.

I have a couple of theories rattling around in my head, but at this time I don't want to post them because my theories would be non-complimentary to some people (not talking about defense lawyers) and I'm not ready to go there. Suffice to say, I am no closer to fully buying into the defense theory.

However, I do not think they are making this up out of whole cloth.....not them at least. But perhaps they are choosing to believe some things they are very willing to believe. Confirmation bias....camping out on the evidence they want to believe and ignoring other evidence (but defense attorneys are not supposed to be objective).

I read it. Wow.
If it was one or some, there are still some sick puppies out there.
Hard to understand how someone could do that to some innocent kids.
Makes me want to channel Bigred *

 

[Mgderf]

I read it. Wow.
If it was one or some, there are still some sick puppies out there.
Hard to understand how someone could do that to some innocent kids.
Makes me want to channel Bigred *

I've lived in this general area since highschool.
I'm 65 years old and I have never heard of this kind of ...I don't eveñ have words.
"Odinist's" ? Never heard the term until now.
I've heard of Paganism, but nothing around here.
This is just inconceivable.

 

[Mounty09]

Prosecutors respond to accused Delphi murderer’s motion to suppress evidence.

Prosecutors have accused alleged killer Richard Allen’s attorneys of “extrajudicial grandstanding” after they moved to suppress evidence found during an October 2022 search of his home.

www.purdueexponent.org

 

[Hawkeye]

Prosecutors respond to accused Delphi murderer’s motion to suppress evidence.

Prosecutors have accused alleged killer Richard Allen’s attorneys of “extrajudicial grandstanding” after they moved to suppress evidence found during an October 2022 search of his home.

www.purdueexponent.org

REAALLY? Do ya think?

 

[KellyinAvon]

REAALLY? Do ya think?

I wasn't expecting, "Odinists? Oh wow we should dismiss the case!" either.

 

[HoughMade]

The prosecution has responded to the motions filed by the defendants. However they did what was, in my opinion, a very smart thing and responded specifically to what the defense was asking for rather than getting into the whole Odinist angle.

The 136 page filing the defense filed was an overly long and convoluted attempt to get the Court to suppress the items found in the search of Allen's home. The Odinist stuff was all window dressing. The prosecution simply outlined the probable cause that resulted in the warrant, citing applicable law and arguing that probable cause was sufficient. It does not take on the Odinist allegations directly, but in referring to the defense motion, uses such terms as "colorful", "dramatic", "highly unprofessional" and "not completely true" (which I view as a conspicuous understatement). In another bit of classic understatement, the prosecution states: "the allegations outlined by the Defense are not supported by evidence that they have collected."

In the response to the motion asking that the proceedings be televised, the prosecution stated that:

- "the Defense team has continued this extrajudicial grandstanding",

- "Defense counsel continues to use inflammatory language in pleadings, including statements that are simply not true, and there is no reason to think they will not continue to use supercilious language in court, designed as soundbites for recording on the national stage, for example the language used by Defense describing "the conditions under which Mr. Allen has been forced to endure are akin to that of a prisoner of war",

- "Defense has filed its 136-page Memorandum in Support of the Franks hearing in which only 13 pages refers to any allegations relevant to the question of a Franks inquiry. The remaining 90% of the Memorandum outlines its fanciful defense for social media to
devour."

There will be a time that refuting the Odinist stuff may become necessary (if there is actual evidence which is by no means clear), but I agree that now is not the time.

Honestly, over time since the defense's bombshell filings, I have started to think that I may have been giving too much credit to the defense attorneys by assuming that they actually believe what they wrote. Perhaps I respect my profession too much and have been exposed to too many attorneys that would never think of promoting a theory without sound evidence. I am starting to think this is a cynical defense strategy bourn out if desperation and not belief in its probability. I guess we'll see.

 

[bwframe]

Prosecutor shares ‘serious concerns’ with motion to allow broadcast cameras in courtroom of Delphi murders court proceedings

CARROLL COUNTY, Ind. — Carroll County Prosecutor Nicholas McLeland has filed a motion opposing a request to broadcast the trial for Delphi murder suspect Richard Allen, citing “serious …

fox59.com

 

[BugI02]

I am unaware of any aspect of The Eddas or more generally Norse or viking mythology that indicated Odin valued or required human sacrifice (other than valor in battle)

Unless one of the defendants plucked out his own eye and then hung from the branches of an Ash tree (Yggdrasil) for nine days in order to 'summon the runes' it's hard to see a connection to Odin at all

Have any ravens been hanging around the courthouse?

 

[Frank_N_Stein]

I am unaware of any aspect of The Eddas or more generally Norse or viking mythology that indicated Odin valued or required human sacrifice (other than valor in battle)

Unless one of the defendants plucked out his own eye and then hung from the branches of an Ash tree (Yggdrasil) for nine days in order to 'summon the runes' it's hard to see a connection to Odin at all

Have any ravens been hanging around the courthouse?

Have you watched the series "Ragnarok" on Netflix? It is really good.

 

[dudley0]

Have you watched the series "Ragnarok" on Netflix? It is really good.

I liked the series Vikings quite a bit. Have yet to start Ragnarok. Guess now I will have to.

In the series Vikings they did sacrifice humans in non-battle situations to appease the gods. If I remember correctly.

Not saying that show was fact based enough to rely on it.

 

[Frank_N_Stein]

I liked the series Vikings quite a bit. Have yet to start Ragnarok. Guess now I will have to.

In the series Vikings they did sacrifice humans in non-battle situations to appease the gods. If I remember correctly.

Not saying that show was fact based enough to rely on it.

Ragnarok is set in modern times and is the story of Thor.

 

[HoughMade]

Defense attorneys only have to create reasonable doubt in one jurors mind to get an acquittal.

One juror would be a hung jury and a mistrial. They can be tried again.

 

[Hawkeye]

One juror would be a hung jury and a mistrial. They can be tried again.

Yep. If two jurors - would it be a well-hung jury?