nonobaddog
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DeSantis 2024?
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nonobaddog
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I'm going to try not to say anything bad about either one, Trump or DeSantis. Might as well put my mouth where my mouth is.
I'll leave the crap flinging to the dumocraps and the zoo.
I'll leave the crap flinging to the dumocraps and the zoo.
If we're spending political capital, I'd MUCH rather have a 'major, major overhaul' of the FBI and DoJ than the CDC and the NIH“Well, first, we need an honest reckoning about what happened during COVID,” remarked Governor DeSantis. “And the only honest reckoning is that all of those [health] agencies, all of the elites, the public health establishment, they failed. They instituted bad policies,” he expressed.
“Obviously, it’s a novel virus. But I think what happened was when the data was becoming more and more apparent that the path they were on was wrong, they doubled down and wanted to do it even more. And I really believe had Florida not just kind of stood in the way, I think this country would have had rolling lockdowns for probably a two-year period,” the Florida Governor attested.
“And so, their impulses were authoritarian. They were not following the data. And I think the U.S. government needs to acknowledge the failures. And I think all of those [health] agencies need to be cleaned out,” asserted Governor DeSantis.
“What I saw, just dealing with them, was I saw an interest in the narrative and in politics over evidence-based reasoning and evidence-based medicine. And so, I don’t have confidence that those agencies are up to the task. And I think you need major, major overhaul of the whole enchilada with respect to public health in this country.”
We Need a COVID ‘Reckoning,’ Says Governor DeSantis in Elon Musk Twitter Space Event
“I think all of those [health] agencies need to be cleaned out.”dailyclout.io
The latter two are a distraction. Get real time control of the levers and you can clean up the CDC in a day
It's not that it shouldn't be done, it's that it shouldn't be job one - and it smells a bit of picking an easy, good publicity fight over an existential one. I'd like to hear him say the FBI is incorrigible and should be disbanded
We did meet a woman on the trail who was pretty vocal in her disapproval that a knife as all she was allowed to carry against the dangers of mountain lions, although she carried one because she felt it was still better than nothing
nonobaddog
Grandmaster
I agree completely but it might be wise to not say that this early in the show. They are a very dangerous group at this time.
Agreed, but because DeSantis hasn't ever been under investigation by the FB! or DoJ (yet) he can more easily say it without all the drama and pearl clutching, and it needs to be said
Despite the preponderance of evidence, even TUS on INGO will say that 'the FBI's framing of Trump hasn't been PROVEN' as if it ever will or could be to their unrealistic standards
Despite the preponderance of evidence, even TUS on INGO will say that 'the FBI's framing of Trump hasn't been PROVEN' as if it ever will or could be to their unrealistic standards
DeSantis’s rollout flopped compared to all the hyped expectations. No doubt about that. But the above reply is a deflection from my point, not addressing it. About all you can say to the point is either to deny it, excuse it, or say that you don’t care. And the latter seems to be how you’ve decided. And fair enough. You get to decide how to prioritize the character of your guy.
To me, I still see it as a choice of least evil. DeSantis has only the potential to be that. But to me he doesn’t live up to what I’d commit to supporting. The rollout doesn’t help him in that regard. In terms of policy platform he’s solid. Obviously more articulate than Trump. But doesn’t have the charisma. If primaries were held tomorrow, best guess I’d go with DeSantis over Trump. By May 2024? No idea. He could continue with that god sent him nonsense through the primaries, That puts him in the same league with Trump’s pompous ******* personality, which I think is a liability.
Why not both?
Certainly DOJ/FBI is the priority. It’s the enforcement arm of the administrative state. Cut them off at the knees first. But given the rhetoric, there will be another pandemic used to get more people to accept state encroachment into their lives.
The medical apparatus needs overhauled and that’s not gonna get cleaned up in a meaningful way by executive orders. Every president has a pen and phone and could just change it back. Money has to be removed from the process.
That means legislation to stop the money flowing from big pharma to government agencies. Make paying off regulators a crime again. We’ll need a president who can work with Congress. I don’t know if the kind if person exists who can get that done with the Congress we’ll likely have. Trump has proven himself incapable of it though.
With the money involved, I think you are way underestimating the task. But I agree that it’s not task one. Dismantle the administrative enforcement apparatus first. That can be done with a pen and phone.
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It’s all connected. If we don’t systemically root this all out, what happened with covid will happen again. You can’t just ignore one for the other.
"If we're spending political capital, I'd MUCH rather have a 'major, major overhaul' of the FBI and DoJ than the CDC and the NIH"
"The latter two are a distraction. Get real time control of the levers and you can clean up the CDC in a day"
DeSantis was asked a specific question and gave an answer to this question.
“What are your thoughts about reforming the public health authority in the United States and the Federal government, the CDC, the FDA, the NIH? How do you see reforms we need so that the mistakes of the lockdowns that happened during the pandemic don’t happen again when there’s another pandemic?” Dr. Bhattacharya questioned.
"It's not that it shouldn't be done, it's that it shouldn't be job one - and it smells a bit of picking an easy, good publicity fight over an existential one.
He wasn't asked about the FBI and the DOJ so how was it "picking an easy, good publicity fight over an existential one." If he was responding to that specific issue?
"I'd like to hear him say the FBI is incorrigible and should be disbanded"
He's spoken about this subject. When asked about Christpher Wray in particular he flat out said he would fire him on day one.
"The latter two are a distraction. Get real time control of the levers and you can clean up the CDC in a day"
DeSantis was asked a specific question and gave an answer to this question.
“What are your thoughts about reforming the public health authority in the United States and the Federal government, the CDC, the FDA, the NIH? How do you see reforms we need so that the mistakes of the lockdowns that happened during the pandemic don’t happen again when there’s another pandemic?” Dr. Bhattacharya questioned.
"It's not that it shouldn't be done, it's that it shouldn't be job one - and it smells a bit of picking an easy, good publicity fight over an existential one.
He wasn't asked about the FBI and the DOJ so how was it "picking an easy, good publicity fight over an existential one." If he was responding to that specific issue?
"I'd like to hear him say the FBI is incorrigible and should be disbanded"
He's spoken about this subject. When asked about Christpher Wray in particular he flat out said he would fire him on day one.
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BTW, speaking of Wray, Trump appointed him. Would Trump be capable of admitting his mistake?
He endorsed Ken Paxton, and now, according to Louis Gomert, was upset by Paxton’s shenanigans privately. But he’s defending him publicly on “Truth” Social.
Can Trump fire Wray?
He endorsed Ken Paxton, and now, according to Louis Gomert, was upset by Paxton’s shenanigans privately. But he’s defending him publicly on “Truth” Social.
Can Trump fire Wray?
The following question in that interview was about the border and immigration. DeSantis's response of what he would do if elected president sounded a lot like what Trump did.
Looks like DeSantis would carry on with that AF Trump policy. Trump should be encouraged as well as Trump supporters to see that someone else would carry on with those policies should he not receive the nomination instead of trashing him.
As a matter of fact DeSantis would carry on with a lot of Trump's policies as POTUS if he were elected.
Looks like DeSantis would carry on with that AF Trump policy. Trump should be encouraged as well as Trump supporters to see that someone else would carry on with those policies should he not receive the nomination instead of trashing him.
As a matter of fact DeSantis would carry on with a lot of Trump's policies as POTUS if he were elected.
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Seriously. That bull**** meme is far from reality. I would have thought better of you than to post that crap.If you want something closer to reality in comparison DeSantis is more like a young focused aggressive Lion that has learned how to fight from observing the productive lessons of the elder Lion without picking up some of the immature character traits that the elder Lion still exhibits.
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How does that go? 'The above reply is a deflection from my point'
The point is to control the levers of power, that means electing enough AF republicans to make it so the next president isn't limited to pen and phone. And you also need control of congress to 'remove money from the process'
And you need control of congress, beyond the squish percentage, to punish the guilty. I have little illusion about them seeing the inside of a cell (see: number of players prosecuted for their role in the Great Recession) but with numbers and will they can be fired and stripped of their pensions and perks
Exerting control over the FBI and the DoJ should be job one or the next non-Democrat president will find himself exactly where Trump did - set up.
If a president gets functional control of the security state, the military and federal law enforcement first, he can clean out the other totalitarian nests at his leisure. If he doesn't prioritize the most dangerous fifth columnists first, he risks not being able to clean out anything
Is there a transcript. I absolutely cannot stand anything presented as video except things you truly need to see to understand like plane crashes or auto racing wrecks
A video record is valuable when if someone actually said something being quoted is in doubt, but I'd still rather read about it and only go to the video to research a specific point. I never even watched Tucker but instead read the transcript. Video takes way too long to present something I can read or skim in 1/3 the time
