THE CZickness XLIX....Tackling 2023 with CZ style...

[bcannon]

I have a Fusion frame and slide build that came out well.

As I’ve casually looked lately, availability is not good for parts though.

I can't remember all of the frame/slide combos he recommended but I do remember Fusion was one of the many. Allen is good at finding parts also, he helped me find a pic rail mount for my Trailside pistol, it had been unobtainium for me to find. I won't have to alter anything on it now to get a RDS mounted.

 

[Leadeye]

Good morning ! I have a rather large project in my music room today.... will (hopefully) share a photo tonight.

MM photos always have that professional touch.

 

[gmcttr]

Met with another INGO'er this morning and picked up a new to me CZ Shadow 2 OR. Also handed the Trijicon SRO that will go on it to UPS to be sent back for warranty repair/replacement.

QC was checking out the purchase as I took the photo and approved it.

 

[bcannon]

Met with another INGO'er this morning and picked up a new to me CZ Shadow 2 OR. Also handed the Trijicon SRO that will go on it to UPS to be sent back for warranty reair/replacement.

QC was checking out the purchase as I took the photo and approved it.

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Nice!!

I guess the reason she liked me so well is that we worked in the same department..

 

[T-DOGG]

Met with another INGO'er this morning and picked up a new to me CZ Shadow 2 OR. Also handed the Trijicon SRO that will go on it to UPS to be sent back for warranty reair/replacement.

QC was checking out the purchase as I took the photo and approved it.

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What in the world is that gun leaning against?

I find it strange that gun has front slide serrations but no rear ones.

 

[Benp]

What in the world is that gun leaning against?

I find it strange that gun has front slide serrations but no rear ones.

That IS interesting about the serrations! With the optic attached then you wouldnt need the rear serrations anyway, but this is interesting.

 

[Born2vette]

What in the world is that gun leaning against?

I find it strange that gun has front slide serrations but no rear ones.

A piece of burl wood?

You use the optic to rack against a wall or 2x4 like they do at Sage dynamics!

 

[gmcttr]

A piece of burl wood?

Correct.

 

[ditcherman]

Met with another INGO'er this morning and picked up a new to me CZ Shadow 2 OR. Also handed the Trijicon SRO that will go on it to UPS to be sent back for warranty repair/replacement.

QC was checking out the purchase as I took the photo and approved it.

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I was holding a Trijicon rmr on the milled area of my SP01 tactical last night, to see how it’d look, and I noticed the rmr mounting holes are so much farther apart (than the Romeo), there would barely be any meat on the slide on the outside.
Do people add material in that area? That doesn’t seem likely.
I know I’ve seen an rmr mounted on a CZ in here, 75 I think, but not sure how it was done.
Have you done it or have any insight?

 

[gmcttr]

I was holding a Trijicon rmr on the milled area of my SP01 tactical last night, to see how it’d look, and I noticed the rmr mounting holes are so much farther apart (than the Romeo), there would barely be any meat on the slide on the outside.
Do people add material in that area? That doesn’t seem likely.
I know I’ve seen an rmr mounted on a CZ in here, 75 I think, but not sure how it was done.
Have you done it or have any insight?

Did you have the slide milled for the Romeo footprint or is it OEM?

Subject to correction by someone that knows what they are talking about...Factory milled slides may be milled for a variety of individual optics footprints or a more universal footprint that requires adaptor plates between the slide and optic.

I asked AllenM about milling an RMR cut on my SP-01 Shadow. Here is part of his reply...
"RMR will require an adapter plate after the slide is milled because slide is to narrow to accommodate the RMR screw pattern. But the plate is available."

Hope this helps a little.

 

[Benp]

I was holding a Trijicon rmr on the milled area of my SP01 tactical last night, to see how it’d look, and I noticed the rmr mounting holes are so much farther apart (than the Romeo), there would barely be any meat on the slide on the outside.
Do people add material in that area? That doesn’t seem likely.
I know I’ve seen an rmr mounted on a CZ in here, 75 I think, but not sure how it was done.
Have you done it or have any insight?

I dont have a red dot on my SP01, but would an adapter plate work?

 

[Born2vette]

I dont have a red dot on my SP01, but would an adapter plate work?

I don’t have my SP01 milled but it sits in my nightstand with a Romeo1 mounted with a Sig dovetail plate. Do not think they have a plate for their other optics though. However, you lose the rear sight and front sight is not tall enough to co-witness. Makes you commit to a RDS.

 

[ditcherman]

Did you have the slide milled for the Romeo footprint or is it OEM?

Subject to correction by someone that knows what they are talking about...Factory milled slides may be milled for a variety of individual optics footprints or a more universal footprint that requires adaptor plates between the slide and optic.

I asked AllenM about milling an RMR cut on my SP-01 Shadow. Here is part of his reply...
"RMR will require an adapter plate after the slide is milled because slide is to narrow to accommodate the RMR screw pattern. But the plate is available."

Hope this helps a little.

Thanks, your reply is exactly what I was looking for. Rmr is too wide without an adapter plate. It sure looked like it to me.

Sorry I wasn’t very clear on my end; Allen had milled my slide for a Romeo1 Pro a couple months ago. I just had removed it to see how the rmr would fit.

I have an EoTech EFLX coming for the Omega, which is same pattern as Romeo.

 

[Leadeye]

What in the world is that gun leaning against?

I find it strange that gun has front slide serrations but no rear ones.

Imitation of the early Colt 1902 maybe.

 

[ditcherman]

I don’t have my SP01 milled but it sits in my nightstand with a Romeo1 mounted with a Sig dovetail plate. Do not think they have a plate for their other optics though. However, you lose the rear sight and front sight is not tall enough to co-witness. Makes you commit to a RDS.

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That’s a nice adapter plate and mount. Very clean and as low as you can get I bet.

Personally I’m committed enough to red dots that I’ve decided if it’s not sentimental or otherwise valued, it leaves or gets milled.

Also, any milling on a CZ you will lose the rear sight and same as lose front sight functionality.
Even the Romeo combination on many 320’s you lose the rear sights, like on what ‘should be’ the higher end AXG models.

With that said, I’m happy to not have suppressor height sights in my way.

 

[Born2vette]

That’s a nice adapter plate and mount. Very clean and as low as you can get I bet.

Personally I’m committed enough to red dots that I’ve decided if it’s not sentimental or otherwise valued, it leaves or gets milled.

Also, any milling on a CZ you will lose the rear sight and same as lose front sight functionality.
Even the Romeo combination on many 320’s you lose the rear sights, like on what ‘should be’ the higher end AXG models.

With that said, I’m happy to not have suppressor height sights in my way.

This was my first (and only) pistol with a RDS. I did the dovetail plate in case I hated it/could not get used to it and could go back to stock sights if desired. I looked for a sacrificial extra slide when I started thinking bout this but the few I found were prohibitively priced. Have decided as I am not getting any younger and my eyes will pretty much suck from here on out to start moving to RDS on some of my firearms.

In the coming months will hopefully unveil my first carry with a RDS. Just need to stop buying firearms and ammo long enough to get the cash in my gun fund to proceed how I want.

 

[88E30M50]

This is an excellent question. This seems like a question that could generate a whole lot of answers. It may also depend on how much money you are wanting/willing to sink into this. This could easily be it's own thread.

The goal would be to have a great 1911 to give to my sons. I want to put a significant amount of work into it myself. For instance, I'd prefer a non-beaver tail to allow me to fit a beaver tail myself. I'd probably farm out the front strap checkering, slide cuts and barrel fit to AllenM. The grips would be custom made by me too. It's really planned as a pair of heirloom guns for my sons. It may be a year or more before I begin the process though.

 

[88E30M50]

Even before your post, I was thinking about starting “legacy” projects for my kids like CM and was having the same consideration.

My thought has been to keep an eye out for the previous generation SA Loaded/range officers. All that would matter would be slide to frame fit as everything else would be changed.

Interested to hear your thoughts.

Like you say, this idea is CM inspired. Both guns would be brushed stainless with blasted rounds and redwood grips. They would need to be worthy of this group too.

 

[mcapo]

I was holding a Trijicon rmr on the milled area of my SP01 tactical last night, to see how it’d look, and I noticed the rmr mounting holes are so much farther apart (than the Romeo), there would barely be any meat on the slide on the outside.
Do people add material in that area? That doesn’t seem likely.
I know I’ve seen an rmr mounted on a CZ in here, 75 I think, but not sure how it was done.
Have you done it or have any insight?

RMR on a Phantom:

 

[mcapo]

Like you say, this idea is CM inspired. Both guns would be brushed stainless with blasted rounds and redwood grips. They would need to be worthy of this group too.

Have you looked at Caspian? They have lots of options and will make certain items to order (such as no logos).