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  • jamil

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    Exactly. Part of what it has meant to be a conservative by definition means you want to conserve the existing institutions as they are. It's been an epiphany for me the last couple of years but I'm no longer a conservative. I don't want to conserve what we have now.
    I think conservatives should talk more about the values that they want society to have rather than conserve, because those values are pretty well gone throughout a lot of the US. When we have to defend against being called far right and crazy, for advocating values that most people had just 10 years ago is pretty astonishing to me. It's okay to be against grooming children. It's okay to be against favoring one group of people over another based on skin color! We think we've turned the corner on race and here come a bunch of left wing racists telling a group of people with a certain skin color, to get to the back of the bus! WTF?
     

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    Possible intended outcomes:

    1. Musk already has a CEO, and this is performance art
    2. Musk will use the poll as a bot honeypot
    3. Musk will step down temporarily, and then reassume the role (just to troll)
    I think he will always ultimately run the show. Anyone who thinks appointing another CEO of twitter means he's stepping away is fooling themselves.

    I think it was always his plan to appoint a CEO to run twitter. As owner, whoever is CEO ultimately answers to him anyway. So it's not so much stepping down as it is delegating.

    So. I think #1 and #2 are highly likely. # 3 not so much.

    But, someone made the point that Musk wanted Trump on twitter to drive interaction. Whatever you want to say about Trump he certainly did that when he was on Twitter before his ban. Musk unbanned Trump but he hasn't come back. So I think Musk may be trying to fill that role of stirring **** up.
     

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    Not that this had anything to do with the question, but Young-likeness IS the GOP. Why did Holcomb win in a landslide in Indiana given his performance as governor during the pandemic? What other conclusion is apparent than because Hoosiers agreed with it.
    My conclusion is that most vote the least path of change. Most are afraid of what might happen. It’s a human failing to talk yourself out of taking a chance.
     

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    That was not the topic, but I can blend your posts with the topic you quoted.

    You post is total BS, just not borne out in the real world. Do you really believe if all the republicans were gone nothing would change? I find it interesting to see what the rabid left sees on issues like this.


    If you were a leftist you certainly have a higher opinion of young than they do. They rate him below Rand Paul, one above Braun, and that his crucial votes are more conservative than the state.

    Do you recognize that you and I are more conservative than the state average?
    You post like polls have validity. Polls are always manipulated by the questioner and also by the one giving the answers in my case. I never answer truthfully. I do so knowing the questions are ask in a manner to get a specific answer. I would guess I’m not the only person to do what they can to invalidate the data.
     

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    You post like polls have validity. Polls are always manipulated by the questioner and also by the one giving the answers in my case. I never answer truthfully. I do so knowing the questions are ask in a manner to get a specific answer. I would guess I’m not the only person to do what they can to invalidate the data.
    Dude, did you even read my response? There is nothing in my post about a “poll”. I posted a link to how leftists grade senators. It includes a grade for senators if they buck their constituents. The left sees Young as an F and that he votes more conservative than his state averages.

    I personally do not like Young but still believe we are better off with him than a Bayh or Donnelly but you do not seem to agree. You still have not answered, do you think if all republicans were gone from DC would things be just the same?
     

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    Dude, did you even read my response? There is nothing in my post about a “poll”. I posted a link to how leftists grade senators. It includes a grade for senators if they buck their constituents. The left sees Young as an F and that he votes more conservative than his state averages.

    I personally do not like Young but still believe we are better off with him than a Bayh or Donnelly but you do not seem to agree. You still have not answered, do you think if all republicans were gone from DC would things be just the same?
    My personal belief is that the republican party has become the democrats expect for a few, and the democrats have become communists.

    I believe both parties are headed the same direction, but at a different speed.

    The only way to get a conservative voice in this country is to start a new conservative party that will stand against both the Democrat and Republican parties.
    Until then nothing is going to change its all moving left.
     

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    My personal belief is that the republican party has become the democrats expect for a few, and the democrats have become communists.

    I believe both parties are headed the same direction, but at a different speed.

    The only way to get a conservative voice in this country is to start a new conservative party that will stand against both the Democrat and Republican parties.
    Until then nothing is going to change its all moving left.

    You are probably right on this, But just how does the new party work into the equation? How would it change anything? So hypothetically the conservative party gets 20 senators, the GOP gets 33, and dems have 47. How do those 20 senators have anymore power than they do if they were republicans? They can be committee chairs for republicans but not a minority party.

    I love your idea, I hope it happens to the dems, not the repubs…
     

    DadSmith

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    You are probably right on this, But just how does the new party work into the equation? How would it change anything? So hypothetically the conservative party gets 20 senators, the GOP gets 33, and dems have 47. How do those 20 senators have anymore power than they do if they were republicans? They can be committee chairs for republicans but not a minority party.

    I love your idea, I hope it happens to the dems, not the repubs…
    It would probably force the Republicans to side with the conservative party unless they are Rinos.

    The dems already have several splits green party, independents.
     

    Ingomike

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    It would probably force the Republicans to side with the conservative party unless they are Rinos.

    The dems already have several splits green party, independents.
    Or, it could force them to go further left seems more likely. What have you seen that has become more conservative in the last 20 years?

    Independents are not a splinter of dems exclusively.
     

    DadSmith

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    Or, it could force them to go further left seems more likely. What have you seen that has become more conservative in the last 20 years?

    Independents are not a splinter of dems exclusively.
    They say 38% of voters are independent. That means the. Majority of independent voters are voting democrat or something else.
     

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    This is great, IMO. Don't get me wrong, employers need to do certain things to keep employees happy and foster employee retention. That said, if you create an environment full of freebies that inspire your employees to sit in nap pods, or game rooms all day instead of working, you get a workforce that doesn't get the job done. Especially when you have a bloated workforce like Twitter did. That they're doing a better job with less than half the workers is extremely telling. My only fear is that normal employers start doing things like this, which would be a disaster. Most employers run short staffed (at least in IT related areas) and some only offer the absolute minimum in the way of benefits for the employees. Hopefully this will stay limited to the bloated tech industries in Sillycon Valley.
     

    jamil

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    My personal belief is that the republican party has become the democrats expect for a few, and the democrats have become communists.

    I believe both parties are headed the same direction, but at a different speed.

    The only way to get a conservative voice in this country is to start a new conservative party that will stand against both the Democrat and Republican parties.
    Until then nothing is going to change its all moving left.
    I'm gonna remake a point GFGT did about “conservatives”. I don’t think that has a lot of meaning anymore. Status quo has now shifted to progressivism becoming main stream. What we think of as “conservative” is advocating that we go back to the traditional values we had in the last century. But there is no more conserving that because we’ve lost it. The world has moved on. Some of that is for the good, but the woke part is a sort of evil.

    But the point I want to add to the ide of conservatism losing its meaning, is that we’re probably not gonna get that back and the number of people who even want it back dwindles. The tent needs to expand. America First principles I think is a better message than trying to conserve something that’s been out of the mainstream for maybe a decade.

    The Republican party is the only party that can even give AF a home. The Democrat Party doesn’t want it. I think AF has to overcome the RNC. People like Mitch McConnell either need to get on board or join the Commie woke party.

    I hate political parties. I hate the Democrat party. I hate the Republican Party. But in practical terms parties are a reality that just is. And it’s impractical to get any political goals achieved without them. The Republican Party needs to be the AF party. Not the conservative party. It needs to focus on that and not become like the TEA party which lost its primary focus after politicians figured out they could exploit it to push any political agenda on the right.
     
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