COVID OMICRON Thread

[Ingomike]

Sometimes there are reasons you might want to be tested that have nothing to do with altering treatment - like if you were planning to spend a few days visiting with your overweight, diabetic grandmother.

Would you trust that to the tests available?

 

[nonobaddog]

Would you trust that to the tests available?

As opposed to what else?


No, I don't trust the tests very much but maybe if I had a couple positives in a couple days I would cancel that visit.

 

[actaeon277]

“When you have eliminated all which is impossible, then whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth.”

 

[nonobaddog]

“When you have eliminated all which is impossible, then whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth.”

Shouldn't it be rather easy to eliminate that which is impossible? And that could still leave a few hundred possibilities not all of which must be the truth.

It is a catchy quote but I don't think it passes the Vulcan logic test.

 

[Ingomike]

As opposed to what else?


No, I don't trust the tests very much but maybe if I had a couple positives in a couple days I would cancel that visit.

Are you like the gal on a vacation plane flight, she tested negative 7 times but then tested again on the flight and it showed positive and quarantined in the plane bathroom and missed her vacation. She never had symptoms…

 

[nonobaddog]

Are you like the gal on a vacation plane flight, she tested negative 7 times but then tested again on the flight and it showed positive and quarantined in the plane bathroom and missed her vacation. She never had symptoms…

Not at all.

 

[Jaybird1980]

Not at all.

You do realize that many people are testing negative for several days while having symptoms, and don't test positive until day 4-5.

If it can test negative while having actual symptoms, it can certainly test negative while being asymptomatic.

IMO This completely shows they are unreliable and should note be depended on.

 

[mbills2223]

A comparison of the fact that you think people bring up 1984 too often in reference to what 0Biden/Pelosi/The Left are doing

But you repeatedly bring up the tired 'echo chamber' trope, which is what I refer to when I state that fringe INGO uses that when the majority of INGO just isn't buying what they're selling

Nice attempt at deflection, though - and what makes you think Pelosi's lawyers arguing that congress isn't bound by any laws already on the books is not germane to 1984

Such an episode may not occur within the scope of the book, but prior to that time Big Brother took control of everything and everybody. Could not congress seeking to exempt itself from any legal restrictions, even those enacted to prevent targeting of political enemies (the laws in question were enacted due to the excesses of the House UnAmerican Activities Committee and upheld by the Supreme Court) be the sort of thing that leads to Big Brother-like control?

How are we now talking about Pelosi?!?! I'm not following the path you took to get here. This is a COVID thread where COVID things were being compared to 1984. You are entirely deflecting and changing the subject, not me. I'm out on this one dude.

 

[mbills2223]

Shouldn't it be rather easy to eliminate that which is impossible? And that could still leave a few hundred possibilities not all of which must be the truth.

It is a catchy quote but I don't think it passes the Vulcan logic test.

I'm behind on this thread so I have no clue what this is even really referring to, but I thought the same thing in regard to the quote.

 

[jamil]

Would you trust that to the tests available?

Well. If your home test is positive you pretty much have covid. If it's negative, well, maybe test again tomorrow.

 

[hoosierdoc]

Sometimes there are reasons you might want to be tested that have nothing to do with altering treatment - like if you were planning to spend a few days visiting with your overweight, diabetic grandmother.

Right, and that is completely dependent on the individual to make that decision.

 

[nonobaddog]

You do realize that many people are testing negative for several days while having symptoms, and don't test positive until day 4-5.

If it can test negative while having actual symptoms, it can certainly test negative while being asymptomatic.

IMO This completely shows they are unreliable and should note be depended on.

I agree, but you asked me if I was like that person you described. I'm not. For a vacation, that didn't involve risking Grandma's health, I would only take one test if I had to and fewer than that if I didn't have to - and off we go.

ETA - Oh crap, you didn't ask me anything, that was Ingomike. Never mind.
And Yes, I realize the tests are crappy.

 

[firecadet613]

All youtube said on mine was that it violated their terms of service. I wish they would be very specific about violations so we could all have more fun laughing at those morons.

Here's what they said on mine...

 

[KG1]

Right, and that is completely dependent on the individual to make that decision.

Yep. You don't demand that everyone around you gets tested even though they are asymptomatic. That's like saying "Hey everyone I wanna go see my Grandma so I need you all to get tested" If you wanna test yourself before you visit Grandma that's fine.

 

[JCSR]

Here's what they said on mine...

 

[jamil]

BTW, for those attributing it to Spock, it came from Sherlock homes. But Sherlock probably got it from Spock when he time traveled.

Bug and the quote are kinda right. It's like saying in a true/false domain, if everything else is false, what you're left with is true. It's a logical tautology.

It's not making a statement of how easy or hard it is to eliminate what's impossible. It's not making a statement that you can even know all the explanations. there are lots of truths that were always true, but discovered at some point. The hard part to make practical use would be identifying every relevant thing that could be true or false.

Okay, so either the Butler did it. The maid did it. Or, the Groundskeeper did it. We found proof that the maid was dressed in her red dress, the one with the low cut. Anway, she was with the butler at the time of the murder, um, having a Lewinski moment. So obviously the Groundskeeper did it. Right? Spock's law and all? Oh, no no. You did not consider Hillary. Now, it may be very difficult to rule her out. Or prove she did it. She probably did. If you could truly rule her out though, then it's the Groundskeeper, definately. He's a Democrat, so...

 

[KG1]

BTW, for those attributing it to Spock, it came from Sherlock homes. But Sherlock probably got it from Spock when he time traveled.

Bug and the quote are kinda right. It's like saying in a true/false domain, if everything else is false, what you're left with is true. It's a logical tautology.

It's not making a statement of how easy or hard it is to eliminate what's impossible. It's not making a statement that you can even know all the explanations. The hard part would be identifying every relevant thing that could be true or false.

Okay, so either the Butler did it. The maid did it. The Groundskeeper did it. We found proof that the maid was with the butler at the time of the murder, um, having a Lewinski moment. So obviously the Groundskeeper did it right? Oh, no no. You did not consider Hillary. Now, it may be very difficult to rule her out. Or prove she did it. She probably did. If you could truly rule her out, then it's the Groundskeeper. He's a Democrat, so...

I'm betting it was Hillary.

 

[nonobaddog]

Spock would not make that mistake.

 

[jamil]

How are we now talking about Pelosi?!?! I'm not following the path you took to get here. This is a COVID thread where COVID things were being compared to 1984. You are entirely deflecting and changing the subject, not me. I'm out on this one dude.

I thought it was just an example WRT "1984" denial. I don't think it matters in such a case what it is.

Okay. Pelosi has covid face. Is that now relevant to covid?

 

[jamil]

I'm betting it was Hillary.

At this point we can't rule out Hilary or the Groundskeeper.

Plot twist. A newly discovered fact was that the Groundskeeper had secret communications with Hillary. A receipt was found on the floorboard of his golf cart for a pair of pruning sheers. The victim was stabbed with a semi sharp object that could potentially be pruning sheers. It's not looking good for team D or H. I suspect they're in cahoots.