Rittenhouse pleads 'Not Guilty'

[Cameramonkey]

Mayor = Leader

He stills owns it. I'm not totally cut-n-dry, and given a really good reason he shouldn't be accountable, I'd give him a pass. That ain't this.

I think you’re missing the point that Hogsett is not just the mayor, but also the self declared public safety Director. (He chose not to appoint one after he was elected so that he could do it himself) The public safety Director is the ultimate leader over IMPD.

So therefore as the ultimate leader of IMPD, he should’ve been available and in communication with the brass during those nights.

 

[tackdriver]

He has no control over the Prosecutor. The Prosecutor didn't prosecute but a few "protestors", but did prosecute two officers for using force to make an arrest.

You're right, and I'll agree with you. Heap all the blame, resentment, annimosity, and loathing you want on the Prosecutor. I'll also still blame the Mayor for the dates mentioned. There is plenty of blame left for the Prosecutor and the course they chose afterward. Like a bag of Dorito's, if there's not, we'll make more!

 

[tackdriver]

I think you’re missing the point that Hogsett is not just the mayor, but also the self declared public safety Director. (He chose not to appoint one after he was elected so that he could do it himself) The public safety Director is the ultimate leader over IMPD.

So therefore as the ultimate leader of IMPD, he should’ve been available and in communication with the brass during those nights.

With respect, what point did I miss? I blame the Mayor for not being an effective leader, not taking control of the situation, not even showing up. It sounds like we might be in agreement, or I really did miss something.

 

[Cameramonkey]

With respect, what point did I miss? I blame the Mayor for not being an effective leader, not taking control of the situation, not even showing up. It sounds like we might be in agreement, or I really did miss something.

Typically the mayor is at least once removed from the situation and their responsibility is more as a figurehead and stepping down is more symbolic. In this case he is directly responsible.

Like the difference between me screwing up doing my job and my responsibility, and my supervisor's responsibility. If you were my boss, would it be my responsibility I literally drilled through a water pipe in a wall, or should you be fired too because I screwed up? Sure, I should be fired for not paying attention and destroying a customer's house. But you dont necessarily share the same level of culpability. Now if YOU decided you didnt need me and could do the job yourself and hit the pipe...

Or maybe if I wasnt sure what to do and tried calling you repeatedly for guidance and you (for whatever reason) refused to take my calls so I was forced to blindly move forward...

Edit: and we agree overall.

 

[KG1]

How the hell did we get here? A young man is on trial for charges that could put him in prison for the rest of his life. His actions in all cases checked every "this is self-defense" box you can imagine. There are not only multiple witnesses, there is video evidence from multiple sources including FBI FLIR imagery showing clearly KR acted in self-defense.

KR was the victim of a smear campaign for well over a year. Despite evidence available in real-time to the contrary, KR was relentlessly smeared by "the elite" in this country, including the President of the United States (referred to KR as a white supremacist.)

The prosecution in this case implied that KR's silence was an indication of guilt (got arse ripped by the Judge over that, GOOD!) and that a defense witness/member of the press had bias because he retained an attorney (that Binger clown had no arse left after that.)

The jury has been threatened via video by the nephew/cousin/friend/complete rando under the influence of drugs who could say the words "George Floyd."

The willing participants in the smear campaign (media) have pivoted to smearing the Judge.

The willing participants in the smear campaign (celebrity elite) are mocking KR.

Whether you think KR should've been there that night or not, that's irrelevant. He was there. KR didn't waive his essential right to self-defense because there was a riot.

"Where the hell is Kenosha, Wisconsin?" isn't the question. "How the hell did this happen in the United States?" seems to be a better question.

Heard somewhere that there will be lawsuits filed on behalf of Rittenhouse for those that defamed him.

 

[Hatin Since 87]

 

[daddyusmaximus]

Heard somewhere that there will be lawsuits filed on behalf of Rittenhouse for those that defamed him.

I certainly hope so. They raked him over the coals like Nicholas Sandmann, if not worse.

You can bet he will be blamed for the ensuing riots as well, should he be acquitted.

 

[Frank_N_Stein]

You're right, and I'll agree with you. Heap all the blame, resentment, annimosity, and loathing you want on the Prosecutor. I'll also still blame the Mayor for the dates mentioned. There is plenty of blame left for the Prosecutor and the course they chose afterward. Like a bag of Dorito's, if there's not, we'll make more!

I am referring solely to the officers being prosecuted, nothing else. I don't blame the Mayor for the "protest" occurring, but I sure as **** blame him for the lack of guidance and allowing "protestors" to act without consequence.

 

[Drewski]

omg

 

[Jaybird1980]

How the hell did we get here? A young man is on trial for charges that could put him in prison for the rest of his life. His actions in all cases checked every "this is self-defense" box you can imagine. There are not only multiple witnesses, there is video evidence from multiple sources including FBI FLIR imagery showing clearly KR acted in self-defense.

KR was the victim of a smear campaign for well over a year. Despite evidence available in real-time to the contrary, KR was relentlessly smeared by "the elite" in this country, including the President of the United States (referred to KR as a white supremacist.)

The prosecution in this case implied that KR's silence was an indication of guilt (got arse ripped by the Judge over that, GOOD!) and that a defense witness/member of the press had bias because he retained an attorney (that Binger clown had no arse left after that.)

The jury has been threatened via video by the nephew/cousin/friend/complete rando under the influence of drugs who could say the words "George Floyd."

The willing participants in the smear campaign (media) have pivoted to smearing the Judge.

The willing participants in the smear campaign (celebrity elite) are mocking KR.

Whether you think KR should've been there that night or not, that's irrelevant. He was there. KR didn't waive his essential right to self-defense because there was a riot.

"Where the hell is Kenosha, Wisconsin?" isn't the question. "How the hell did this happen in the United States?" seems to be a better question.

Rep x1000 in bound.

 

[1gunaholic]

No worries about him ever being convicted. The prosecution is making the case for the defense. In the remote chance there IS a conviction, it would certainly get appealed and reversed. The Judge is doing his best to protect the defendant's rights.

 

[HoughMade]

I'm PO'ed to have to argue motions and jury instructions in my own trials, so guess what I won't be watching today.

 

[1gunaholic]

Love this shot, but what's he aiming at? Rioters, bugs, or just having fun?

 

[ghuns]

Yeah, Don. Just imagine...

 

[1gunaholic]

"CNN’s Don Lemon: The right is trying to say people have a right to defend ‘your town,’ ‘your street,’ and ‘your country.’ Imagine if every single person in America did that"

It's happening more and more.

 

[KLB]

I'm PO'ed to have to argue motions and jury instructions in my own trials, so guess what I won't be watching today.

Sounds rivoting

 

[Leadeye]

Can you impeach prosecutors?

 

[Leadeye]

Love this shot, but what's he aiming at? Rioters, bugs, or just having fun?

Needs to put more thickener in whatever fuel he's using, if it's liquid at all.

 

[KellyinAvon]

Love this shot, but what's he aiming at? Rioters, bugs, or just having fun?

I think the flamethrower is akin to Tucker Carlson’s commentary last night on the subject.

 

[daddyusmaximus]

No worries about him ever being convicted. The prosecution is making the case for the defense. In the remote chance there IS a conviction, it would certainly get appealed and reversed. The Judge is doing his best to protect the defendant's rights.

Despite the overwhelming evidence produced in his defense, I still think it's up in the air once the jury goes in to deliberate.
People (the jury) can be unpredictable, and right now half the people in the country are straight up insane.