Mandated vaccines or weekly testing for employers of 100+ people.......

[Slapstick]

This has crossed my mind along with the possibility that covid is actually much worse than they've reported. Think highly contagious, respiratory version of aids or something, where we don't find out the true danger posed by the virus for several years. Maybe they're trying to avoid panic.

But I don't see how transparency now that a minority majority are jabbed wouldn't serve the purpose of motivating those who aren't, so I'm doubtful that some imminent classified threat is what's motivating the push. I'm left concluding its something else.

Edited for clarity

I's beginning to think this it's all about the money. Trillians of dollors fleeced from the tax payers of every country being given to Big Pharama and others to fight the pandemic. They in turn kickback a small portion to the politicians. This is a cash cow they can milk for a very long time since there's a new variant turning up every other week.

 

[chipbennett]

What effects will the vaccine have on people in 2-5 years?

What effects will Covid infection have on people in 2-5 years?

 

[chipbennett]

Ammonia is fine.
Bleach is fine.
Mix them and you have a real problem.

Aluminum is fine.
Draino is fine.

Mix them together and you have a real problem.

Dry ice is fine.
Warm water is fine.

Mix them together and you have a real problem.

I concede that a vaccine comprised of any of the above combinations would be toxic.

 

[chipbennett]

Nigeria, but ... there it is.

Well, crap... here comes the flood of emails from long-lost relative, Nigerian princes needing somewhere to deposit all their cash.

 

[buckwacker]

I said: "the vaccine is not poison"
You said: "I don't think you can say that with confidence"

(I'm paraphrasing. The backlinks are there. Feel free to take them. Or not.)

Note: your statement above was not in response to me asserting that the vaccine is "safe", but rather that it is "not poison". So, yes: the goalposts are being moved here, and not by me.

Now we're getting closer, but you still haven't shown where I said the vaccine is poison. That was the first strawman you erected.

I think you're intelligent enough to realize that the original post (not mine) you responded to was a bit of hyperbole. "Poison" meaning a medical intervention with currently unknown, future widespread adverse reaction of significant severity. That poster can't know that any more than you can know that to be false, unless you're a time traveller and have seen the future.

You then doubled down on your assertion that you KNOW the jab to be safe by listing off the ingredients as proof. I challenged that logically vacuous argument as did others, you refused to address it, and instead erected the straw man that I believed the jab is government poison. And here we are.

 

[buckwacker]

What effects will the vaccine have on people in 2-5 years?

What effects will Covid infection have on people in 2-5 years?

Both legitimate questions. One is not an answer to the other.

 

[Leadeye]

I's beginning to think this it's all about the money. Trillians of dollors fleeced from the tax payers of every country being given to Big Pharama and others to fight the pandemic. They in turn kickback a small portion to the politicians. This is a cash cow they can milk for a very long time since there's a new variant turning up every other week.

It's not just the money, covid issues allowed machines do manipulate parts of the election process more easily. That aspect of it will be taken into account by leadership.

I noted that I've heard nothing about the guy the police picked up with drugs, guns, money and 300 ballots.

 

[Hatin Since 87]

I concede that a vaccine comprised of any of the above combinations would be toxic.

I think you understood his post, not sure why you refused to address the point he made but it seems the pro vaccine crowd would rather deflect than address.

 

[Route 45]

This has crossed my mind along with the possibility that covid is actually much worse than they've reported. Think highly contagious, respiratory version of aids or something, where we don't find out the true danger posed by the virus for several years. Maybe they're trying to avoid panic.

The one thing that amazes me in all of this is the fact that the "99.8% survival" stat is taken as absolute gospel by the same people who vehemently deny or attempt to twist any other statistic coming from the exact same source.

I don't know about anybody else, but I personally know two people who have died from Covid in the past year. I've never known anyone that has died from the flu.

If Trump would have made the statement that breathing is a good thing, liberals would hold their breaths just to spite him. The opposite is also true. What better way to cull the conservative herd than to tell them that this is just a bad flu, then order them to wear masks and get vaccinated? They know damn well what conservatives will do.

 

[JTScribe]

This is what popped up in the news feed,
Not that it will matter to the delusional since it's not on the extremists right conspiracy theory crap sites...

The actual news is full of it, including sites from the actual hospitals...
But I'm sure the delusional will say the actual hospitals are in on some conspiracy.

Area hospitals overrun with COVID-19 patients

CUMBERLAND — A high number of local COVID-19 cases, combined with a low community vaccination rate that leads to overrun hospitals, has created “a recipe for disaster,” Mark Boucot said.

www.times-news.com

Overworked doctors, nurses in several states getting help from National Guard

A Georgia hospital has so many patients that the National Guard has been sent to help.

fox59.com

Metro hospitals overflowing with COVID-19 patients, postponing non-emergency procedures

This week, Grady Health System announced it is postponing non-emergency procedures.

www.wsbtv.com

This is because the hospitals don’t have the staff to maintain their full number of beds.

IU Health is a prime example. There was already a nurse shortage due to Covid burnout and a multitude of other reasons, and they exacerbated it by canning hundreds of staff for refusing to be vaccinated.

If you’re working on a covid ward wearing a PAPR you’re a heck of a lot safer than the average Joe walking around wearing a cloth rag.

 

[Route 45]

IU Health is a prime example. There was already a nurse shortage due to Covid burnout and a multitude of other reasons, and they exacerbated it by canning hundreds of staff for refusing to be vaccinated.

IU Health has 36,000 employees. About 300 were suspended. Not all of them nurses, obviously. In fact, I'm betting a very small percentage of the 300 employees suspended were LPNs or RNs.

 

[wtburnette]

The one thing that amazes me in all of this is the fact that the "99.8% survival" stat is taken as absolute gospel by the same people who vehemently deny or attempt to twist any other statistic coming from the exact same source.

I don't know about anybody else, but I personally know two people who have died from Covid in the past year. I've never known anyone that has died from the flu.

What about the stats don't you get? The numbers posted were taken directly from the CDC site for those under the age of 70. The thing is that if you are reasonably healthy, don't have several (or at least serious) comorbidities and are under the age of 70, the chance of surviving COVID are very good. That isn't my opinion, that's a fact. I know one person who died of COVID. He was 68 or so I believe, overweight and had serious health issues, including diabetes. I also have a girlfriend who I live with who had COVID. She was sick for two weeks, with similar symptoms to the flu and then got better. She was 48 at the time, with diabetes, a heart condition and was slightly overweight. Nothing that I've seen is compelling enough that I feel I have to have the vaccine. If you feel different for your situation, I understand completely, but that doesn't give you the right to tell someone else what they should do. They certainly know and understand their health better than you.

 

[wtburnette]

This is because the hospitals don’t have the staff to maintain their full number of beds.

IU Health is a prime example. There was already a nurse shortage due to Covid burnout and a multitude of other reasons, and they exacerbated it by canning hundreds of staff for refusing to be vaccinated.

If you’re working on a covid ward wearing a PAPR you’re a heck of a lot safer than the average Joe walking around wearing a cloth rag.

The nursing shortage is a self inflicted wound by the healthcare industry. LwC did a great show on it recently. Good part starts around 36:06 -

IU Health has 36,000 employees. About 300 were suspended. Not all of them nurses, obviously. In fact, I'm betting a very small percentage of the 300 employees suspended were LPNs or RNs.

According to my understanding from comments on the company intranet site, there are more to come, many of them nurses. I don't know how many were in the 300, but around 600 - 700 were given a two week suspension and need to get the jab during that time. If they don't (and many won't), they'll be fired. I guess IUH didn't want all the bad news to hit the news at once...

 

[Route 45]

What about the stats don't you get? The numbers posted were taken directly from the CDC site for those under the age of 70.

"The CDC is lying" is a frequent flyer amongst those who also use the term "plandemic." Just curious how some people decide when the CDC is gospel, and when they are lying.

If you feel different for your situation, I understand completely, but that doesn't give you the right to tell someone else what they should do. They certainly know and understand their health better than you.

Agreed. But I'm not a healthcare corporation worth billions. They can make their own rules for their employees.

 

[Route 45]

According to my understanding from comments on the company intranet site, there are more to come, many of them nurses. I don't know how many were in the 300, but around 600 - 700 were given a two week suspension and need to get the jab during that time. If they don't (and many won't), they'll be fired. I guess IUH didn't want all the bad news to hit the news at once...

The real bad news is for the nurses. Who is going to hire them? Hope their student loans are caught up.

Nurses who don't trust medical science probably shouldn't be nurses.

 

[JeepHammer]

This is because the hospitals don’t have the staff to maintain their full number of beds.

IU Health is a prime example. There was already a nurse shortage due to Covid burnout and a multitude of other reasons, and they exacerbated it by canning hundreds of staff for refusing to be vaccinated.

If you’re working on a covid ward wearing a PAPR you’re a heck of a lot safer than the average Joe walking around wearing a cloth rag.

Whatever you need to tell yourself to maintain the trump conspiracy theory?

 

[JTScribe]

Whatever you need to tell yourself to maintain the trump conspiracy theory?

Solid troll response addressing none of the salient points.

I’m personally vaccinated and I’ve worked in a hospital throughout the entire pandemic. Where’s the conspiracy theory?

 

[JTScribe]

The real bad news is for the nurses. Who is going to hire them? Hope their student loans are caught up.

Nurses who don't trust medical science probably shouldn't be nurses.

Plenty of places desperate for nurses that aren’t mandating the vaccine.

 

[Leo]

Toxicity of graphene-family nanoparticles: a general review of the origins and mechanisms - Particle and Fibre Toxicology

Due to their unique physicochemical properties, graphene-family nanomaterials (GFNs) are widely used in many fields, especially in biomedical applications. Currently, many studies have investigated the biocompatibility and toxicity of GFNs in vivo and in intro. Generally, GFNs may exert...

particleandfibretoxicology.biomedcentral.com

HCG Found in WHO Tetanus Vaccine in Kenya Raises Concern in the Developing World

In 1993, WHO announced a “birth-control vaccine” for “family planning”. Published research shows that by 1976 WHO researchers had conjugated tetanus toxoid (TT) with human chorionic gonadotropin (hCG) producing a “birth-control” vaccine. Conjugating TT with hCG causes pregnancy hormones to be...

www.scirp.org

 

[BigRed]

The real bad news is for the nurses. Who is going to hire them? Hope their student loans are caught up.

Nurses who don't trust medical science probably shouldn't be nurses.

Perhaps some nurses understand it better than you know.