Mandated vaccines or weekly testing for employers of 100+ people.......

[BigRed]

Give it time...its Nigeria now but does anyone think this couldn't happen here given the trajectory we're on? An American president just gave a speech and said this is not about freedom while mandating you loose your job if you don't do what he says.

You think ammo is tight now.....

 

[KLB]

What Biden should have done is have Facebook and YouTube start banning videos about how well the vaccines work. Apparently that's the key to getting certain people to put their faith and trust in a drug.

You're generally better than that.

Mandating a vaccine should only happen if the vaccine is to fight something truly deadly or debilitating.

There is no doubt that some people will have adverse reactions to the vaccine. There is no way to know who or what that adverse reaction will be. That makes it a risk/benefit analysis, which each person should be free to do for themselves or their children.

As one who has suffered from what once was a "safe" drug and now has a black box warning on it, I do that for each drug someone wants to give me.

For anyone that doesn't know about Black Box warnings

Black Box Drugs: What You Need to Know

It's no secret that prescription drugs have risks. In fact, most drugs on the market today have some level of side effects, which can […]

www.consumersafety.org

 

[BigRed]

Give it time...its Nigeria now but does anyone think this couldn't happen here given the trajectory we're on?

A garrote still has its place.

 

[printcraft]

Some language...

 

[printcraft]

 

[JeepHammer]

Once again JH doesn't disappoint with the mindless drivel and BS with nothing to back any of it up

This is what popped up in the news feed,
Not that it will matter to the delusional since it's not on the extremists right conspiracy theory crap sites...

The actual news is full of it, including sites from the actual hospitals...
But I'm sure the delusional will say the actual hospitals are in on some conspiracy.

Area hospitals overrun with COVID-19 patients

CUMBERLAND — A high number of local COVID-19 cases, combined with a low community vaccination rate that leads to overrun hospitals, has created “a recipe for disaster,” Mark Boucot said.

www.times-news.com

Overworked doctors, nurses in several states getting help from National Guard

A Georgia hospital has so many patients that the National Guard has been sent to help.

fox59.com

Metro hospitals overflowing with COVID-19 patients, postponing non-emergency procedures

This week, Grady Health System announced it is postponing non-emergency procedures.

www.wsbtv.com

 

[buckwacker]

The mannerisms and body language of what I briefly watched of the end of the tyrannical fear mongering appeared to me as fear, internal pain and worry on his behalf.

They're obviously desperate at this point to maintain the control of a highly imploding narrative. Obviously some dementia but as others have stated, let the tyrants make some big mistakes so the unaware citizens get an epiphany and become resistant to all the deception, divisions and constant lies. Only at that point will there be improvement for our Nations and personal well being. The trajectory appears to show big changes the next couple months.

We just need to be mindful of history so as not to repeat it. The Nazis came to power in one of the most advanced, educated nations in the world. No doubt there were many people having similar discussions at the time, not on the interwebs of course, recognizing the rising danger, but unsure how to confront it.

I do not think we should sit around and wait for things to happen, nor do I think we should resort to more drastic measures at this time, as there is quite a bit of uncertainty regarding how that might pan out. We need to take cues from Australia, France, and others; mass demonstrations of civil disobedience on a scale that cannot be ignored and grabs their attention. If the pushback is significant enough, the despots pushing this stuff would be able to infer from the scale and tenor of relatively peaceful demonstrations that in a populace as heavily armed as the US they're not going to be able to push much further without risking an escalation to actual insurrection, as opposed to the January fake one they keep talking about.

This is going to take a lot of wisdom to navigate around their trap, because that's what this appears like to me, while setting one of our own.

 

[NKBJ]

You're generally better than that.

Mandating a vaccine should only happen if the vaccine is to fight something truly deadly or debilitating.

There is no doubt that some people will have adverse reactions to the vaccine. There is no way to know who or what that adverse reaction will be. That makes it a risk/benefit analysis, which each person should be free to do for themselves or their children.

As one who has suffered from what once was a "safe" drug and now has a black box warning on it, I do that for each drug someone wants to give me.

For anyone that doesn't know about Black Box warnings

Black Box Drugs: What You Need to Know

It's no secret that prescription drugs have risks. In fact, most drugs on the market today have some level of side effects, which can […]

www.consumersafety.org

Have you mulled over the possibility that the progression of jabs are hoped to give some benefit for what's released when the hot war with China kicks off?
Just something I thought about when trying to make some sense out of what we're being fed. No pun intended.

 

[sparky32]

This is what popped up in the news feed,
Not that it will matter to the delusional since it's not on the extremists right conspiracy theory crap sites...

The actual news is full of it, including sites from the actual hospitals...
But I'm sure the delusional will say the actual hospitals are in on some conspiracy.

Area hospitals overrun with COVID-19 patients

CUMBERLAND — A high number of local COVID-19 cases, combined with a low community vaccination rate that leads to overrun hospitals, has created “a recipe for disaster,” Mark Boucot said.

www.times-news.com

Overworked doctors, nurses in several states getting help from National Guard

A Georgia hospital has so many patients that the National Guard has been sent to help.

fox59.com

Metro hospitals overflowing with COVID-19 patients, postponing non-emergency procedures

This week, Grady Health System announced it is postponing non-emergency procedures.

www.wsbtv.com

 

[JeepHammer]

Like I said, it won't matter to the delusional conspiracy theory types...

 

[printcraft]

 

[BigRed]

The world is ending and you will die unless you surrender liberty and submit.

 

[wtburnette]

You work for IU health? Were you suspended for not getting jabbed? I thought I heard they were one of the first in Indiana to mandate it as a condition of employment and that several hundred employees had been suspended for noncompliance.

Yes I work for IUH, not as a healthcare worker though. I received a religious exemption. Hoping it'll cover me until this stuff blows over, or there are lawsuits that strike it down.

 

[MCgrease08]

 

[buckwacker]

Have you mulled over the possibility that the progression of jabs are hoped to give some benefit for what's released when the hot war with China kicks off?
Just something I thought about when trying to make some sense out of what we're being fed. No pun intended.

This has crossed my mind along with the possibility that covid is actually much worse than they've reported. Think highly contagious, respiratory version of aids or something, where we don't find out the true danger posed by the virus for several years. Maybe they're trying to avoid panic.

But I don't see how transparency now that a minority majority are jabbed wouldn't serve the purpose of motivating those who aren't, so I'm doubtful that some imminent classified threat is what's motivating the push. I'm left concluding its something else.

Edited for clarity

 

[buckwacker]

Yes I work for IUH, not as a healthcare worker though. I received a religious exemption. Hoping it'll cover me until this stuff blows over, or there are lawsuits that strike it down.

Did you have to agree to any concessions as a condition of being granted a religious exemption? You don't have to answer if you feel the too personal. I only ask because a relative had to agree that they would forgo any unemployment or such as a condition. I wouldn't have signed it because the only purpose it serves is to disconnect their future termination from refusal to get jabbed and insulate themselves from having to pay unemployment for termination without cause.

 

[wtburnette]

Nope, nothing like that on the online form I completed.

 

[NKBJ]

This has crossed my mind along with the possibility that covid is actually much worse than they've reported. Think highly contagious, respiratory version of aids or something, where we don't find out the true danger posed by the virus for several years. Maybe they're trying to avoid panic.

But I don't see how transparency now that a minority majority are jabbed wouldn't serve the purpose of motivating those who aren't, so I'm doubtful that some imminent classified threat is what's motivating the push. I'm left concluding its something else.

Edited for clarity

Yeah, me too. But I continue to scratch my head on this a whole lot. I think I've basically put it together and then again I know there's wrinkles I'll never know.

 

[chipbennett]

???? Not arguing with you, guess I was curious since you seemed to defend the vaccines by stating what you said....was looking to see if my thinking was wrong. Instead I get deflection? I'll be honest, until recently I have never heard of a straw man, and have yet to inquire about it, and doubt I will. I don't have Siri by the way.

Every drug substance, vaccine, and medical device has side effects and adverse events - up to and including death. The only deflection here was the implication that because I stated that VAERS doesn't prove causation, therefore I believe that the Covid vaccine has caused no [death, side effects, insert-adverse-event-here]. Nowhere did I ever say or imply such a thing.

 

[chipbennett]

Hypocrisy: bitching at people for moving goalposts while moving goalposts. You claimed I said it was poison, and when I challenged you, you won't admit I didn't say it, but now claim it's what I meant because I had to audacity to disagree with you're assertion that you know the jab was safe, an assertion which was your response to another poster who claimed it was government poison, or some such.

So yeah, I need you to show the receipts demonstrating that I said it was poison otherwise it's you moving the goalposts. You're smarter than this, admit your mistake.

The point I WAS making is that you don't have evidence to claim the jab is safe. You can't rattle off a list of ingredients as proof, which I addressed to you upthread. The clinical trials were a joke, it's not been in use long enough for long term problems to manifest, there seems to be a disproportionate number of adverse effects with these when compared to common vaccines.

I said: "the vaccine is not poison"
You said: "I don't think you can say that with confidence"

(I'm paraphrasing. The backlinks are there. Feel free to take them. Or not.)

Note: your statement above was not in response to me asserting that the vaccine is "safe", but rather that it is "not poison". So, yes: the goalposts are being moved here, and not by me.