Will you take the Covid Vaccine?

[jamil]

As an aside, I would like to make a snide a remark about how countries with socialized medicine can't seem to get the vaccine out in large numbers, but here we are with "free"...government bought an paid for vaccines distributed through government channels, so I don't have much to say on that point.

I guess the good news is that our big pharma rocks.

yeah. I'd say they've made a pretty good living on Covid.

 

[d.kaufman]

Most Vaccinated Country on Earth Closes Schools and Sports as COVID Cases Surge -- 35% of New Cases Are Fully Vaccinated Residents | The Gateway Pundit | by Jim Hoft

Seychelles, the most vaccinated country in the world, is seeing a surge in coronavirus cases.

www.thegatewaypundit.com

 

[jamil]

Most Vaccinated Country on Earth Closes Schools and Sports as COVID Cases Surge -- 35% of New Cases Are Fully Vaccinated Residents | The Gateway Pundit | by Jim Hoft

Seychelles, the most vaccinated country in the world, is seeing a surge in coronavirus cases.

www.thegatewaypundit.com

Interesting. The vaccines were China's and AstraZeneca.

"AstraZeneca’s vaccine appeared to be less effective against that variant in a study, and South Africa halted plans to use it."

So China's vaccine is ****. AstraZenaca is ****.

 

[HoughMade]

Most Vaccinated Country on Earth Closes Schools and Sports as COVID Cases Surge -- 35% of New Cases Are Fully Vaccinated Residents | The Gateway Pundit | by Jim Hoft

Seychelles, the most vaccinated country in the world, is seeing a surge in coronavirus cases.

www.thegatewaypundit.com

Raw numbers? What do they consider a surge?

[ETA]

1,068 active cases, up from 612 a week before.

[ETA2]

"Other nations that have vaccinated large portions of their populations have seen Covid cases plunge. In the U.K., where 52% of people have a first dose, cases are down 96% from a recent high in January. In Israel, where 60% have had at least one dose, new cases are down 99%"

World’s Most-Vaccinated Nation Activates Curbs as Cases Rise

Seychelles, which has fully vaccinated more of its population against the coronavirus than any other country, has closed schools and canceled sporting activities for two weeks as infections surge.

www.bloomberg.com

Perhaps different variants and better vaccines.

 

[jamil]

Raw numbers? What do they consider a surge?

There are only 98K people. The new cases are 1060 something. No idea what their norm is. But I'm not doubting that the china vax is ****.

 

[Tombs]

Is there any reliable data on the sputnik-V vaccine?

Know quite a few friends in other countries who have had it with absolutely no negative side effects.

 

[mbills2223]

Is there any reliable data on the sputnik-V vaccine?

Know quite a few friends in other countries who have had it with absolutely no negative side effects.

Good question...I have access to several journals. If I remember I'll see if anything is published.

 

[actaeon277]

Oh Jeez

Illinois governor bribing pro-gun people to get the COVID vaccine

Bribery is nothing new in Illinois these days, but this is hilarious LOFL https://twitter.com/GovPritzker/status/1390060014950391812?s=20 I mean, it‘s not a bad ploy, especially from a less than gun friendly governor, but no thanks. I sure JB’s moms are thrilled with this incentive though LOL...

www.mom-at-arms.com

 

[avboiler11]

Is there any reliable data on the sputnik-V vaccine?

From The Lancet:

Sputnik V COVID-19 vaccine candidate appears safe and effective​

 

[SwikLS]

 

[avboiler11]

View attachment 138672

Yeah, about this fake infographic...

The CDC breaks down ages by 65-75, 75-84, and 85+, with each older age group showing increased mortality.

In the 65+ age demographic, there have been 4.426M confirmed positive COVID cases and 449,938 COVID deaths.

That's a 10.16% Case Fatality Ratio for the 65+ demographic.

 

[melensdad]

View attachment 138672

Lots of FAKE graphics out there

This one doesn't even use the correct age breakdowns. I can't beleive that people actually fall for this crap. It only takes a few seconds to confirm data before it is passed along. Easiest to lose all credibility in a discussion is to pass along obviously faked data.

 

[melensdad]

Is there any reliable data on the sputnik-V vaccine?

Know quite a few friends in other countries who have had it with absolutely no negative side effects.

Sputnik-V is one of the old style vaccines, similar to the Oxford/AstraZenica and the J&J vaccine. Russia had the data peer reviewed and did large sample size trials. It appears to be at least as effective as the J&J and OX/AZ vaccines.

On the other hand, the Chinese SinoVac vaccine is pretty close to worthless. Several nations that used the Sinovac are having serious problems with covid infections.

There also appears to be hope for a TREATMENT in the form of Ivermectin as a couple lawsuits have been won by families of patients who are now forcing hospitals to administer Ivermectin. There is not a lot of strong data, but there is a huge amount of acedotal information that the drug may be seriously effective against Covid. It is cheap, supposedly safe, available and made as a generic.

 

[nonobaddog]

There also appears to be hope for a TREATMENT in the form of Ivermectin as a couple lawsuits have been won by families of patients who are now forcing hospitals to administer Ivermectin. There is not a lot of strong data, but there is a huge amount of acedotal information that the drug may be seriously effective against Covid. It is cheap, supposedly safe, available and made as a generic.

Those are some serious strikes against it.

 

[melensdad]

Those are some serious strikes against it.

Well only if the drug Ivermectin actually works. The jury is still out on that but it looks good. That said, it typically takes a COURT ORDER to get ivermectin in the USA for Covid.

Video may be interesting, it sources a paper from India:

 

[Jaybird1980]

Well only if the drug Ivermectin actually works. The jury is still out on that but it looks good. That said, it typically takes a COURT ORDER to get ivermectin in the USA for Covid.

Video may be interesting, it sources a paper from India:

Is this the Illinois Coma patient? This one looks like a last ditch effort, it'll be interesting if if works.

 

[HoughMade]

Well only if the drug Ivermectin actually works. The jury is still out on that but it looks good. That said, it typically takes a COURT ORDER to get ivermectin in the USA for Covid.

I'm fine with lawsuits that try to get ivermectin treatment to patients when the doctor is willing, but the FDA doesn't allow.

I am very not fine with a lawsuit to force a doctor to render a specific treatment that they do not want to. That's a very slippery slope.

 

[Jaybird1980]

I'm fine with lawsuits that try to get ivermectin treatment to patients when the doctor is willing, but the FDA doesn't allow.

I am very not fine with a lawsuit to force a doctor to render a specific treatment that they do not want to. That's a very slippery slope.

I agree. The one I saw was kind of a last ditch effort to a coma patient, I kind of wonder why the Dr. Was so reluctant to try it. We will see I guess

 

[melensdad]

Is this the Illinois Coma patient? This one looks like a last ditch effort, it'll be interesting if if works.

That is ONE of TWO cases in the USA where courts jumped in with emergency orders. But even if the drug is successful in BOTH cases, the reality is that a sample size of 2 is too small to claim success.

 

[melensdad]

I'm fine with lawsuits that try to get ivermectin treatment to patients when the doctor is willing, but the FDA doesn't allow.

I am very not fine with a lawsuit to force a doctor to render a specific treatment that they do not want to. That's a very slippery slope.

In the Illinois case, the family has a DOCTOR who is willing to administer it.

The HOSPITAL prevented the treatment.

The COURT ORDER allows the doctor to come to the hospital daily to personally administer the treatment. If I understand it correctly, the hospital staff is not involved in any way in the administration of the drug.