Will you take the Covid Vaccine?

[d.kaufman]

The purpose of the vaccine is to prevent you from getting it in the first place.

Except it doesn't prevent you from getting the KungFlu. They've admitted that already

 

[avboiler11]

Except it doesn't prevent you from getting the KungFlu. They've admitted that already

STOP REPEATING THIS NONSENSE, IT ISN'T TRUE AND HASN'T BEEN SAID BY HEALTH PROFESSIONALS FOR WEEKS

Yes, initially, scientists said they couldn't be sure that vaccination would prevent asymptomatic infection...because they didn't have any specific data about that because that's not what the Stage 3 trial was designed to observe.

Then results from mass vaccination in Israel and the United Kingdown started coming in, showing very strong protection from infection in real-world conditions.

Over a month ago, the CDC issued a study that showed mRNA vaccines were 90% effective at preventing SARS-CoV-2 infection in a cohort which was fully vaccinated and tested weekly for 13 consecutive weeks.

Bottom line: YES, SARS-CoV-2 vaccines are highly effective at preventing infection with COVID-19.

 

[jamil]

STOP REPEATING THIS NONSENSE, IT ISN'T TRUE AND HASN'T BEEN SAID BY HEALTH PROFESSIONALS FOR WEEKS

Yes, initially, scientists said they couldn't be sure that vaccination would prevent asymptomatic infection...because they didn't have any specific data about that because that's not what the Stage 3 trial was designed to observe.

Then results from mass vaccination in Israel and the United Kingdown started coming in, showing very strong protection from infection in real-world conditions.

Over a month ago, the CDC issued a study that showed mRNA vaccines were 90% effective at preventing SARS-CoV-2 infection in a cohort which was fully vaccinated and tested weekly for 13 consecutive weeks.

Bottom line: YES, SARS-CoV-2 vaccines are highly effective at preventing infection with COVID-19.

I suspected that they would help prevent infection and thus be effective against spreading, considering the fairly rapid way that infections started tapering off as the vaccine was deployed. It certainly wasn't conformity to masks and social distancing that did it. Probably a combination of the people who've had it, along with the vaccines.

 

[Ingomike]

THat's fine if you have had COVID. The purpose of the vaccine is to prevent you from getting it in the first place. Not to prevent reinfection. Although, the vaccine likely does prevent re-infection as well.

The purpose of a vaccine is to train the immune system to fight something when you get it. Big difference...

 

[JCSR]

Police officers spurn coronavirus vaccines...​

Many police officers spurn coronavirus vaccines as departments hold off on mandates​

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/many-police-officers-spurn-coronavirus-vaccines-as-departments-hold-off-on-mandates/ar-BB1ghSFC?ocid=uxbndlbing
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/m...d-off-on-mandates/ar-BB1ghSFC?ocid=uxbndlbing


Police officers were among the first front-line workers to gain priority access to coronavirus vaccines. But their vaccination rates are lower than or about the same as those of the general public, according to data made available by some of the nation’s largest law enforcement agencies.

 

[Jaybird1980]

The purpose of a vaccine is to train the immune system to fight something when you get it. Big difference...

That's how vaccines work. The vaccine cannot prevent a virus from entering your system. It can only help control the response to the virus.

 

[avboiler11]

Vaccines don't just illicit an immune response after you "get" an illness; the entire point of a vaccine is to prevent you from "getting" an illness in the first place.

As mentioned upthread, a vaccine cannot prevent you from being exposed to an infectious disease and it entering your body. That said, a vaccine prepares your immune system to identify the infectious disease and destroy it before it replicates enough to actually infect you, make you contagious, or become symptomatic with disease. In that situation, yes a virus would have entered your body - but you were never infected with it because your immune system fought it off before that happened.

The problem with SARS-CoV-2 is the body hasn't seen it before; it was a novel human coronavirus and therefore we collectively had little if any immune response until the virus replicated to the point of infection and symptoms.

There is speculation that previous recent infection with a human coronavirus (a few of which cause common colds, along with adenoviruses, RSV, etc.) may have conferred some level of protection from SARS-CoV-2 infection due to B & T-cell memory, but last I saw that has not been scientifically confirmed.

 

[JCSR]

Vaccines don't just illicit an immune response after you "get" an illness; the entire point of a vaccine is to prevent you from "getting" an illness in the first place.

As mentioned upthread, a vaccine cannot prevent you from being exposed to an infectious disease and it entering your body. That said, a vaccine prepares your immune system to identify the infectious disease and destroy it before it replicates enough to actually infect you, make you contagious, or become symptomatic with disease. In that situation, yes a virus would have entered your body - but you were never infected with it because your immune system fought it off before that happened.

The problem with SARS-CoV-2 is the body hasn't seen it before; it was a novel human coronavirus and therefore we collectively had little if any immune response until the virus replicated to the point of infection and symptoms.

There is speculation that previous recent infection with a human coronavirus (a few of which cause common colds, along with adenoviruses, RSV, etc.) may have conferred some level of protection from SARS-CoV-2 infection due to B & T-cell memory, but last I saw that has not been scientifically confi

SARS-CoV-2 antibody-positivity protects against reinfection for at least seven months with 95% efficacy​

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/eclinm/article/PIIS2589-5370(21)00141-3/fulltext

 

[avboiler11]

The protective benefits of infection-conferred immunity, and the contribution of ICI to a reduction in new COVID cases, has been largely ignored by the talking head MPHs on TV and that is disappointing.

That, afterall, is how we got to herd immunity with 1918 H1N1.

 

[mbills2223]

Vaccines don't just illicit an immune response after you "get" an illness; the entire point of a vaccine is to prevent you from "getting" an illness in the first place.

As mentioned upthread, a vaccine cannot prevent you from being exposed to an infectious disease and it entering your body. That said, a vaccine prepares your immune system to identify the infectious disease and destroy it before it replicates enough to actually infect you, make you contagious, or become symptomatic with disease. In that situation, yes a virus would have entered your body - but you were never infected with it because your immune system fought it off before that happened.

The problem with SARS-CoV-2 is the body hasn't seen it before; it was a novel human coronavirus and therefore we collectively had little if any immune response until the virus replicated to the point of infection and symptoms.

There is speculation that previous recent infection with a human coronavirus (a few of which cause common colds, along with adenoviruses, RSV, etc.) may have conferred some level of protection from SARS-CoV-2 infection due to B & T-cell memory, but last I saw that has not been scientifically confirmed.

Exactly.

 

[nonobaddog]

Vaccines don't just illicit an immune response after you "get" an illness; the entire point of a vaccine is to prevent you from "getting" an illness in the first place.

As mentioned upthread, a vaccine cannot prevent you from being exposed to an infectious disease and it entering your body. That said, a vaccine prepares your immune system to identify the infectious disease and destroy it before it replicates enough to actually infect you, make you contagious, or become symptomatic with disease. In that situation, yes a virus would have entered your body - but you were never infected with it because your immune system fought it off before that happened.

The problem with SARS-CoV-2 is the body hasn't seen it before; it was a novel human coronavirus and therefore we collectively had little if any immune response until the virus replicated to the point of infection and symptoms.

There is speculation that previous recent infection with a human coronavirus (a few of which cause common colds, along with adenoviruses, RSV, etc.) may have conferred some level of protection from SARS-CoV-2 infection due to B & T-cell memory, but last I saw that has not been scientifically confirmed.

This kinda depends on which definition of infected you are using. If it enters your body and gets in a fight with your immune system, one definition says you are already infected because you are contaminated and it doesn't matter if your immune system wins or loses. Other definitions say infected means you actually have the disease.

I don't care either way about the definitions as long as my immune system squishes it like one squishes one of those bugs with too many legs.

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: having an infection : contaminated with an infective agent (such as a bacterium or virus)
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containing bacteria or other things that can cause disease:
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Infected

"Infected" is a song written by Brett Gurewitz from the punk rock group Bad Religion. It was released in 1994 and appears on their eighth proper studio album Stranger Than Fiction.

 

[Ingomike]

Vaccines don't just illicit an immune response after you "get" an illness; the entire point of a vaccine is to prevent you from "getting" an illness in the first place.

As mentioned upthread, a vaccine cannot prevent you from being exposed to an infectious disease and it entering your body. That said, a vaccine prepares your immune system to identify the infectious disease and destroy it before it replicates enough to actually infect you, make you contagious, or become symptomatic with disease. In that situation, yes a virus would have entered your body - but you were never infected with it because your immune system fought it off before that happened.

The problem with SARS-CoV-2 is the body hasn't seen it before; it was a novel human coronavirus and therefore we collectively had little if any immune response until the virus replicated to the point of infection and symptoms.

There is speculation that previous recent infection with a human coronavirus (a few of which cause common colds, along with adenoviruses, RSV, etc.) may have conferred some level of protection from SARS-CoV-2 infection due to B & T-cell memory, but last I saw that has not been scientifically confirmed.

It is semantics but one does get the virus.

 

[DadSmith]

ABC's Hostin: 'We Need to Shun Those Who Refuse to Get Vaccinated' -- No Vax, No Entry

ABC News legal analyst and co-host of "The View" Sunny Hostin said on Monday's broadcast that "we need to shun those that refuse to get vaccinated" from public businesses and modes of transportation. | Clips

www.breitbart.com

 

[DoggyDaddy]

ABC's Hostin: 'We Need to Shun Those Who Refuse to Get Vaccinated' -- No Vax, No Entry

ABC News legal analyst and co-host of "The View" Sunny Hostin said on Monday's broadcast that "we need to shun those that refuse to get vaccinated" from public businesses and modes of transportation. | Clips

www.breitbart.com

Using printcraft's family-friendly version of the infamous Johnny Cash photo. (it's not really a thumbs up)

 

[actaeon277]

Well, once I saw "The View", I kinda didn't need to go any further.

How about shunning the View?

 

[SwikLS]

 

[jsx1043]

ABC's Hostin: 'We Need to Shun Those Who Refuse to Get Vaccinated' -- No Vax, No Entry

ABC News legal analyst and co-host of "The View" Sunny Hostin said on Monday's broadcast that "we need to shun those that refuse to get vaccinated" from public businesses and modes of transportation. | Clips

www.breitbart.com

"Hostin added, “I say we need to shun those that refuse to get vaccinated. Just like now in certain states, many states, I know in New York there are signs on storefronts on businesses all across the state no mask, no entry. I think if you have not been vaccinated, no entry. You want to get on a plane. You have to be vaccinated. If those people don’t want to get vaccinated, that’s fine for you, but you can’t spread it to other people that are vaccinated. You can spread it to other people— rather that aren’t vaccinated. You don’t get the liberties that come with immunity. Something has to break. If that’s your personal choice not to get vaccinated, you don’t then get to infringe on the rights of those who have chosen to protect their fellow citizens.”

 

[jsx1043]

Police officers spurn coronavirus vaccines...​

Many police officers spurn coronavirus vaccines as departments hold off on mandates​

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/many-police-officers-spurn-coronavirus-vaccines-as-departments-hold-off-on-mandates/ar-BB1ghSFC?ocid=uxbndlbing
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/m...d-off-on-mandates/ar-BB1ghSFC?ocid=uxbndlbing


Police officers were among the first front-line workers to gain priority access to coronavirus vaccines. But their vaccination rates are lower than or about the same as those of the general public, according to data made available by some of the nation’s largest law enforcement agencies.

I got hit with a login from that link...here's a source link: https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2021/05/02/police-low-vaccination-rates-safety-concerns/

1. LOL

2. "We know a thing or two because we've seen a thing or two."

3. Great, continuing to drive a wedge between the public and law enforcement...(slow clap)

4. (To WaPo



5. What the **** ever...

 

[Jaybird1980]

People shouldn't wonder why lots of people don't value personal freedom anymore. That's what happens when this is the garbage people watch.

 

[printcraft]

What happened to all of the videos coming out this time last year of tented off hospital rooms, body bags and people hooked up to ventilators?
Why aren't they playing daily? How about people dropping dead in the streets being carted off in plastic tents with hazmat personnel?