What the Indy FedEx Shooting Means for INGO

[bwframe]

I don't see what he was saying as INGO being a problem. I saw it as more of a warning to be mindful of what is said, so that the popo don't come knocking on your door asking questions about your posts.

Lest we not lose track of our friend, the OP's, posting habits. He has the tendency to categorize INGOers into perceived negative groupings, when they don't agree with him.

 

[churchmouse]

I've been a member of Ingo going on 12 years now and I've never known any fellow members to have committed mass murder nor am I aware of anyone that has committed any type of crime using a firearm that was purchased thru an Ingo private sale sans background checks.

I would say that's a pretty stellar track record. We do a pretty good job as a 2A community of policing our own.

Ingo is not the problem.

We have had multiple members do bad things. Some very very bad things. We are chock full of human beings peoples. Humans do dumb **** for the oddest reasons.

I see exactly what Kut is trying to say.
Now, lets all clear our minds and relax. There is a point being made here. Like it or not. Agree or not. Its all cool with me.
But the negativity and the anger has escalated and does not show well for us as a collective. Which basically we are.

Its Sunday. Lets take a step back and analyze what's really going on. In a civil manner if possible.

 

[KLB]

Lest we not lose track of our friend, the OP's, posting habits. He has the tendency to categorize INGOers into perceived negative groupings, when they don't agree with him.

And many read anything he posts in the most negative way possible. Some responses to some of his posts are really sad. People look to make him a bad guy irrespective of what he said.

 

[DoggyDaddy]

Now, lets all clear our minds and relax.

 

[churchmouse]

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Good start.

 

[Hawkeye]

Sounds like a good reason not to push buttons, doesn't it?

Totally agree. Hope the chief button pushers read this and think about it.

 

[Hawkeye]

And many read anything he posts in the most negative way possible. Some responses to some of his posts are really sad. People look to make him a bad guy irrespective of what he said.

There MIGHT just be a reason for that, and it's not necessarily the fault of the readers. You know, smoke, fire, ... all that.

 

[gregr]

In all fairness, the kid was only 19. He was just a kid. What the hell did he know?

19 is legally an adult, and in generations past, 19 year olds WERE adults. Only in today`s mentally insane, emotionally unstable bizarro world, where people "choose" their gender regardless of what their DNA says, and college students need safe places to scurry off to if feelings get hurt, are 19 year olds too emotionally fragile to survive the real world.

 

[KG1]

We have had multiple members do bad things. Some very very bad things. We are chock full of human beings peoples. Humans do dumb **** for the oddest reasons.

I see exactly what Kut is trying to say.
Now, lets all clear our minds and relax. There is a point being made here. Like it or not. Agree or not. Its all cool with me.
But the negativity and the anger has escalated and does not show well for us as a collective. Which basically we are.

Its Sunday. Lets take a step back and analyze what's really going on. In a civil manner if possible.

That may very well be but was there anything inaccurate about the specifics of what I posted?

 

[churchmouse]

And many read anything he posts in the most negative way possible. Some responses to some of his posts are really sad. People look to make him a bad guy irrespective of what he said.

In this we get Sooooooooo many reports on his posts and when I take my volunteer time to go and look nothing is out of line except someone is totally off the rails butthurt from being disagreed with and it is a waste of my time.

Do I agree with his stance.....not on a lot of his opinions but except for a few that are right on the line and pushing the Troll alert I see no issues. Seriously peoples we do read most of his stuff as I know 1 or more of you are going to slam the repot box and pretty much ruin my morning. Ignore him if you don't like him. His voting choices **** me right the hell off ad the way he defends these choices are championship level twist and divert. JMHO of course but in all of this he will stand his ground and remain mainly civil about it. When several of you all are just childish.
Stop wasting my time.

 

[churchmouse]

That may very well be but was there anything inaccurate about the specifics of what I posted?

Maybe not the specifics but we have a couple of members that have shot people dead in their tracks over the years. Thieves, vandals, villains and Pyro's.

But your specifics I can not prove.

 

[bwframe]

And many read anything he posts in the most negative way possible. Some responses to some of his posts are really sad. People look to make him a bad guy irrespective of what he said.

Whose fault is that?

What was the INGO majority thought of this thread, when they seen the OP's username?

I'm not picking on our friend, but he really, really could work on his reputation on INGO? Maybe post about guns once in a while, without any agenda issues?

 

[churchmouse]

19 is legally an adult, and in generations past, 19 year olds WERE adults. Only in today`s mentally insane, emotionally unstable bizarro world, where people "choose" their gender regardless of what their DNA says, and college students need safe places to scurry off to if feelings get hurt, are 19 year olds too emotionally fragile to survive the real world.

At 19 I would never ever even think about something as sick and twisted as this act.
If I had issues (and trust me I had some issues) with anyone it was dealt with FTF straight up.
Usually with clenched fists and damaged facial parts.
What these little douche bags are doing is cowardly and sick. "SICK"

 

[ashby koss]

In all fairness, the kid was only 19. He was just a kid. What the hell did he know?

At 19 i sure as hell was far more stable and not fan girling ponies....

(there’s a joke about ponies and stable in here but I’ll leave it)

 

[Itchytriggerfinger]

Whose fault is that?

What was the INGO majority thought of this thread when they seen the OP's username?

I'm not picking on our friend, but he really, really could work on his reputation on INGO? Maybe post about guns once in a while, without any agenda issues?

I hope everyone here knows that a lot of what is said is captured via screenshot by a certain member and shared to other forums.

That was my first thought.

 

[churchmouse]

I hope everyone here knows that a lot of what is said is captured via screenshot by a certain member and shared to other forums.

That was my first thought.

It is a big old world out there peoples and we are not private inside a box. Look at the number of visitors we have on line at any given time.

 

[funeralweb]

In all fairness, the kid was only 19. He was just a kid. What the hell did he know?

If that's as far as he was in emotional development, that speaks volumes of the real underlying issues that create the kind of rage that results in the revolving door of headlines we're seeing frequently. Issues that control freaks want to use to disarm us all.

At 19, I was chasing my goals with a pretty clear plan as to how those goals would be achieved, thanks in large part to a stable, supportive set of parents and grandparents. This punk's media photo, which looks like it came from his drivers license, shows a weaselly looking pizza face who probably wouldn't fare too well in a fair fight.

 

[bwframe]

I hope everyone here knows that a lot of what is said is captured via screenshot by a certain member and shared to other forums.

That was my first thought.

While I question the motive of this behavior and wonder about context used, none of us should be assuming that anything posted on INGO is INGO eyes only.

We should all assume that our words posted are being scrutinized by all kinds of outsiders to our community.

 

[funeralweb]

So after this tragic event, put on my tinfoil hat, and wondered what the repercussions might be. Obviously, or moderator work hard trying to keep things in order, but they can’t possibly see everything. There have been times when some of us have crossed some lines based on frustration with the political climate. After this shooting, is it naive to think that sites such as ours wouldn’t, at least in the brief future, might start having little more traffic from folks trying to gauge the temperature in the local area? I don’t think it is, and think we should be mindful of it. Thoughts?

Let 'em look. If/when someone here crosses a line, I don't believe any "mass shootings" are the result. They might be disappointed when they find a wide range of folks policing their own civil discussions about issues that many of our political "leaders" can only blame on inanimate objects that usually don't work without application of a booger hook to the bang switch.

ETA: If surveillance types want to surveil radical behavior and inciteful conduct, their time might be more wisely spent monitoring Rep. Waters.

 

[cbhausen]

I like to zoom my iPhone screen in landscape orientation so I can’t see the avatars and usernames when I read the new posts, then try to guess who posted. If a particular post catches my attention I will then check to see who made it.