Four Minneapolis officers fired after death of black man part II

[jamil]

Not from what I’ve seen. The prosecution only need make it clear that Chauvin’s actions contributed to Floyd’s death, not that he was solely responsible,

Not make it clear. Beyond reasonable doubt. That’s why I think the 2nd degree manslaughter is most viable. But really, It’s probably another OJ situation where the verdict that satisfies the angry mob most will be the verdict rendered. I don’t have a lot of confidence in the jury to be honest. Minneapolis is one of the nation’s most woke cities in one of the nation’s most woke states.

They’re nowhere close to proving the depravity charge. Unintentional felony murder. Maybe? The prosecution still has a long way to go to prove that. A woke or scared jury wouldn’t need proof for anything.

 

[Leadeye]

If I was stuck in Minneapolis, I would be spending less time watching the dog and pony show and more time setting trip wires, securing a perimeter, and preparing defense against the inevitable excuse to burn, loot, and murder.

Moving is always a tough decision, but there is no good ending to this.

 

[IndyDave1776]

Not make it clear. Beyond reasonable doubt. That’s why I think the 2nd degree manslaughter is most viable. But really, It’s probably another OJ situation where the verdict that satisfies the angry mob most will be the verdict rendered. I don’t have a lot of confidence in the jury to be honest. Minneapolis is one of the nation’s most woke cities in one of the nation’s most woke states.

They’re nowhere close to proving the depravity charge. Unintentional felony murder. Maybe? The prosecution still has a long way to go to prove that. A woke or scared jury wouldn’t need proof for anything.

Good analysis. I fail to see a conviction in an honest court but, then again, it has been obvious from the beginning that this is a "we'll give him a fair trial and then we'll sacrifice him to the mob" trial.

 

[jamil]

Good analysis. I fail to see a conviction in an honest court but, then again, it has been obvious from the beginning that this is a "we'll give him a fair trial and then we'll sacrifice him to the mob" trial.

I do think there is a strong possibility for the 2nd degree manslaughter because he still held Floyd down well after he was no longer moving.

 

[IndyDave1776]

I do think there is a strong possibility for the 2nd degree manslaughter because he still held Floyd down well after he was no longer moving.

I can understand but I see that much in the same way as arguing that the guy standing amidships jumping up and down on the deck caused the Titanic to break in two while sinking.

 

[Jaybird1980]

If I was stuck in Minneapolis, I would be spending less time watching the dog and pony show and more time setting trip wires, securing a perimeter, and preparing defense against the inevitable excuse to burn, loot, and murder.

I'd be busy boxing my crap up to put in the UHaul.

 

[IndyDave1776]

I'd be busy boxing my crap up to put in the UHaul.

Use Penske. They're less expensive when it's all said and done if you are moving far enough to get away from anything.

 

[KLB]

I do think there is a strong possibility for the 2nd degree manslaughter because he still held Floyd down well after he was no longer moving.

I don't see how anyone could find that after the prosecution witness on use of force pretty much debunked it.

 

[BugI02]

I don't see how anyone could find that after the prosecution witness on use of force pretty much debunked it.

What about 'twelve good men and true' who will have to go home and live in the community if they acquit and are likely worried their names will get out if they do

 

[BugI02]

Use Penske. They're less expensive when it's all said and done if you are moving far enough to get away from anything.

Rural Idaho or Montana?

 

[BugI02]

This trial should never have taken place within 100 miles of MSP. That is the first and most egregious miscarriage of justice

 

[Doug]

Does anyone doubt there will be an appeal?
Final resolution is 3-10 years in the future and annual riots are likely until then.

 

[BugI02]

Does anyone doubt there will be an appeal?
Final resolution is 3-10 years in the future and annual riots are likely until then.

The problem being that if they thought he would be acquitted in a fair trial, their current path allows them to keep him rotting in jail for longer, with the home team having the satisfaction of punishing him whether he deserves it or not

 

[JCSR]

This alone should have got the trail moved far from Minneapolis.

The city of Minneapolis has agreed to pay an unprecedented $27 million to the family of George Floyd. The family's attorney says it is the largest pretrial settlement in a civil rights wrongful death case in U.S. history, and it comes as jury selection is underway.

 

[Kutnupe14]

Not make it clear. Beyond reasonable doubt. That’s why I think the 2nd degree manslaughter is most viable. But really, It’s probably another OJ situation where the verdict that satisfies the angry mob most will be the verdict rendered. I don’t have a lot of confidence in the jury to be honest. Minneapolis is one of the nation’s most woke cities in one of the nation’s most woke states.

They’re nowhere close to proving the depravity charge. Unintentional felony murder. Maybe? The prosecution still has a long way to go to prove that. A woke or scared jury wouldn’t need proof for anything.

You undermine the system when discount the verdict because it doesn’t go your way.
It’s odd that you mentioned OJ.

 

[nonobaddog]

Not odd at all. Odd means unusual. The OJ trial gets mentioned in that context many, many, many times.

 

[Kutnupe14]

Not odd at all. Odd means unusual. The OJ trial gets mentioned in that context many, many, many times.

I thought OJ was guilty. I didn’t think they had proven his guilt. I thought Zimmerman was guilty. I didn’t think they proved his guilt either. It seems to me, that whenever a trial goes against what people want to believe, the verdict was arrived due to corrupt motives.

 

[IndyDave1776]

Rural Idaho or Montana?

Seriously, UHaul is cheaper to move across town but with their low flat rate plus (very high) mileage rates, they get a lot more expensive than commercial truck rental companies really quick.

 

[kickbacked]

I thought OJ was guilty. I didn’t think they had proven his guilt. I thought Zimmerman was guilty. I didn’t think they proved his guilt either. It seems to me, that whenever a trial goes against what people want to believe, the verdict was arrived due to corrupt motives.

Casey Anthony. I don’t think I know anyone who thought she wouldn’t get convicted.

 

[IndyDave1776]

I thought OJ was guilty. I didn’t think they had proven his guilt. I thought Zimmerman was guilty. I didn’t think they proved his guilt either. It seems to me, that whenever a trial goes against what people want to believe, the verdict was arrived due to corrupt motives.

I agree regarding OJ. I also have reservations about being able to come back for seconds with a civil suit.

Another case that stands out was the Mike Tyson rape trial. It was pretty much a he said/she said, and I probably would have leaned toward it being a good verdict until learning that the accuser had already instigated a parallel incident prior to this in which she received a large settlement rather than sending someone to prison.