And we're the bad guys

[Tombs]

I actually don't mind that one so much. If you raised garbage kids that the rest of us are going to have to put up with, you should suffer too.

Public education systems brainwashing even well raised kids.

With the way the economy works today, some folks can not afford a home and homeschool at the same time.

 

[maxwelhse]

Public education systems brainwashing even well raised kids.

With the way the economy works today, some folks can not afford a home and homeschool at the same time.

Taking 30 minutes here or there to explain the ways of the world to your kids isn't that damn hard. The public schools weren't good when I went through them and my Dad still told me what was going on in the news and why he was mad about it. Many of my views aren't the same as his, but the divide isn't all that large.

There are going to be exceptions to every rule and some kids are just gonna do what they're gonna do, I get that, but in general I think most of the problems we're having today are due to absentee parents. An 18 year old kid would be exactly the perfect age to be the off spring of one of my dirt bag high school class mates... and it shows.

 

[Tombs]

Taking 30 minutes here or there to explain the ways of the world to your kids isn't that damn hard. The public schools weren't good when I went through them and my Dad still told me what was going on in the news and why he was mad about it. Many of my views aren't the same as his, but the divide isn't all that large.

There are going to be exceptions to every rule and some kids are just gonna do what they're gonna do, I get that, but in general I think most of the problems we're having today are due to absentee parents. An 18 year old kid would be exactly the perfect age to by the off spring of one of my dirt bag high school class mates... and it shows.

Yes, a lot of it is absentee parents, but thinking anyone is immune to brainwashing is foolhearted.

That's what public schools have evolved into, nothing like when you were in them. I graduated around the time air conditioning became prevalent, and even then it was starting but it wasn't nearly as refined as it is today.

 

[maxwelhse]

Yes, a lot of it is absentee parents, but thinking anyone is immune to brainwashing is foolhearted.

That's what public schools have evolved into, nothing like when you were in them. I graduated around the time air conditioning became prevalent, and even then it was starting but it wasn't nearly as refined as it is today.

There's a big difference between being immune to brain washing and "Dad, you're a nazi and I'm telling on you!". If your kids really believe you're what their teachers say you are, and you didn't do anything to stop it, you deserve what you get.

I'm also thinking your vision of the past may be a bit cloudy. At least half of my teachers were old barely washed hippies and they let their attitudes be known. I do understand it has gotten worse, but...

 

[vzdude]

Taking 30 minutes here or there to explain the ways of the world to your kids isn't that damn hard. The public schools weren't good when I went through them and my Dad still told me what was going on in the news and why he was mad about it. Many of my views aren't the same as his, but the divide isn't all that large.

There are going to be exceptions to every rule and some kids are just gonna do what they're gonna do, I get that, but in general I think most of the problems we're having today are due to absentee parents. An 18 year old kid would be exactly the perfect age to be the off spring of one of my dirt bag high school class mates... and it shows.

I’m glad your dad has those conversations with you. My father had one conversation with me about politics, and unfortunately, he still believes it today. He said “Son, if you put work boots on in the morning, you vote Democrat, if not you vote for the other guys “. Now, we still talk politics, but not much. Luckily, I had the opportunity to form my own opinions and they don’t quite align with his. He admits he’ll vote for the man over the party, but the scariest thing is he blindly trusts the government. Unconditionally. That scares the bejesus out of me.

 

[Tombs]

There's a big difference between being immune to brain washing and "Dad, you're a nazi and I'm telling on you!". If your kids really believe you're what their teachers say you are, and you didn't do anything to stop it, you deserve what you get.

I'm also thinking your vision of the past may be a bit cloudy. At least half of my teachers were old barely washed hippies and they let their attitudes be known. I do understand it has gotten worse, but...

Dude, no knock on you but you have no idea how effective modern brainwashing techniques are.
They can be EASILY used to make a saint start worshiping satan if directed correctly, and they'll believe they're doing the right thing in the process, while being wholely unaware any brainwashing is happening.

 

[maxwelhse]

I’m glad your dad has those conversations with you. My father had one conversation with me about politics, and unfortunately, he still believes it today. He said “Son, if you put work boots on in the morning, you vote Democrat, if not you vote for the other guys “. Now, we still talk politics, but not much. Luckily, I had the opportunity to form my own opinions and they don’t quite align with his. He admits he’ll vote for the man over the party, but the scariest thing is he blindly trusts the government. Unconditionally. That scares the bejesus out of me.

Sounds like your Dad simply may not have known anything to teach beyond what he said. I'm glad you found your own path!

 

[maxwelhse]

Dude, no knock on you but you have no idea how effective modern brainwashing techniques are.
They can be EASILY used to make a saint start worshiping satan if directed correctly, and they'll believe they're doing the right thing in the process, while being wholely unaware any brainwashing is happening.

No knock on you either, but you assume that I don't see complete bag of s*** parents on a daily basis and have some experience to draw these conclusions from.

If you don't notice, or care, that your kid becomes a satanist, don't be surprised when they try to damn you to hell with them.

 

[IndyBeerman]

Na. He is the sacrifice to get Kamala in. I would wager against Biden still being president in 6 months.

Six Months????

I had a friend the other day jokingly say he wouldn't be surprised if Biden stokes out finishing this phrase on Jan. 20th.....


"So help me God"

 

[Brambo]

Media/democrats have been calling me their enemy, by name, for right about a decade now and I'm confident they have been laughing at us behind our backs for my entire life.

I really don't care what they have to say anymore and neither should anyone else. Live your life, make the decisions you need to make, and keep truckin'.

Truer words were never spoken.

 

[jsx1043]

Six Months????

I had a friend the other day jokingly say he wouldn't be surprised if Biden stokes out finishing this phrase on Jan. 20th.....


"So help me God"

(Cue lightning bolt)

 

[jwamplerusa]

I will put myself in the brainwashing has been phenomenally successful camp.

I truly believed that we had raised our children to be god-fearing, patriotic, critical thinking citizens. All through their primary and secondary school years they were in sports, they were challenged to justify their positions, and they were taught the Bible, and the Constitution.

Both however received phones relatively early in their young lives. Not so much out of largesse but as a convenience and a safety measure to their travels for sports. Even though we checked social media and we constantly cautioned our children regarding what they posted would live forever; what we did not recognize was what they were consuming.

As they have come into young adulthood and we have experienced their political positions over the last two years it has become terribly obvious that after they left our home and probably before their views had diverged far from what we tried to teach them.

Having given do consideration and performed at least a modicum of research I am thoroughly convinced that the enemies of freedom and liberty and most of all individualism found their greatest dream in the social media platforms that are technologists built. What had taken our enemies decades to accomplish through infiltration of the college education systems and media could be accelerated exponentially via social media.

My children appear to have been captured all too thoroughly by the TDS. Worse they do not see the dichotomy between the life that they have lived iand the fruits of their parents labor they have experienced; in the political collectivist and redistributionist positions they now claim to hold. These were not positions that our children were taught within their home. Our choice of school system and community was careful and was largely based upon a affluent, conservative, and education focused community and school system. We truly believed the metrics supported our decision that the community we chose met our criteria. My wife and many others expended many hours in the school system in voluntary support of the education system. We really did not see degradation until the early 2000s. The degradation in the school systems educational approach and standards was subtle from our perspective.

I am confident however that the far greater impact was social media. And it is not just our youth. I don't do the major social media platforms but my wife does. She has now had to unfriend local acquaintances due to their TDS post calling for the canceling of anyone who had supported President Trump.

In the absence of an event which would cause Americans to rally around their constitution I fear the nation is lost. At least the nation that actually aspired to attain the unattainable ideals within the Constitution of the United States of America. There are far too many of our citizens who simply do not have an understanding nor do they care what the founding principles of this nation were. They will however believe whatever they are fed by the algorithms of the social media platforms. They will gladly allow themselves to be manipulated and controlled for the endorphin hit that they get from a " like ".

While some of us in the United States would scoffed at China's social media credit system, we did not recognize that our enemies were functionally getting us to do the same thing to ourselves.

We have been attacked, we should be rallying around our nation's most basic ideals and principles. Instead we have some of the most powerful and wealthy businesses and individuals in our nation who only exist because of the freedom and opportunity that was once America, having now turned on that which permitted them to come into existence and grow and seek to destroy that freedom and opportunity.

I found nothing so offensive on January 6th than to see the elected representatives of the people cowering from those who they serve. I do not know of a single representative or senator who went out to address the crowd prior to the breach of the capital. They cowered within their chamber unable to complete the simple task of ensuring equal protection before the law for all citizens. All but a few all too happy to put a final stamp on a questionable election while tens of thousands of their masters called for them to protect the principles of the nation. To add insult to injury they reconvened in the dead of night like thieves sneaking through the community to steal from their neighbors.

 

[IndyIN]

At any moment, the ACLU should step up and fight for the American people. Their site prominently states, "The ACLU dares to create a more perfect union — beyond one person, party, or side. Our mission is to realize this promise of the United States Constitution for all and expand the reach of its guarantees."

This is also very promising- https://www.aclu.org/issues/free-speech

"Free Speech

Protecting free speech means protecting a free press, the democratic process, diversity of thought, and so much more. The ACLU has worked since 1920 to ensure that freedom of speech is protected for everyone.

• What's at Stake
• Current Issues
• The Latest
• Act"

I'm sure they mean for everyone, right?

 

[printcraft]

There's a big difference between being immune to brain washing and "Dad, you're a nazi and I'm telling on you!". If your kids really believe you're what their teachers say you are, and you didn't do anything to stop it, you deserve what you get.

They would be disowned and out before they finished the phrase in this house.
They know it.
None of mine a psycho assholes though.

 

[phylodog]

Just wishful thinking , I would hope . !?

If the media's love affair with Obama is any sort of indication, old Joe could shove his hands under a child's shirt during the inaguration and the news will be reporting on a protestor four block away who had a hurtful word on their sign.

 

[phylodog]

I'm sure they mean for everyone, right?

Uhhhhhhh, does someone else wanna tell him?

 

[IndyIN]

Uhhhhhhh, does someone else wanna tell him?

I'm going to identify as non-binary and that should open up the lines of communication, right?

 

[IndyDave1776]

I'm going to identify as non-binary and that should open up the lines of communication, right?

Of course you are non-binary. We are all using hexidecimal!

 

[Kirk Freeman]

Meh, bad movie, history of South America . . . about the same.

 

[cobber]

Are you kidding? Which news source do you think is doing to do anything like that? If there is one currently in existence it'll be shut down as soon as they find a way as will any new sources which attempt to form.

TASS? Xinhua? Both Russia and China will be playing games to keep things stirred up and Americans at each other’s throats. If it suits them they’re capable of throwing Joe overboard. If Google will let them.