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    BugI02

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    It's not that one justifies the other. But the violence and destruction in Portland, Seattle, and DC by Antifa was a lot worse and they were reported as "Protesters". The other side is that the events that happened 1/6 in DC were very quickly called domestic terrorists by the media. Why the difference? Why is the perspective so different based on the "side" the demonstrations were for?

    I would say both sides were very peaceful, but once the destruction or whatever happens they're all rioters at the least. If it goes far enough, maybe domestic terrorists? But I feel like that term refers to the Timothy McVeigh's out there.
    Yes. I seem to recall some on INGO making the distinction that all of the good protestors went home before dark and only the troublemakers were left when darkness brought destruction

    Maybe the good protestors never entered the capital building, but I see a rush to tar all of this particular group as being cut from the same cloth

    I can't escape the feeling that many posting here would prefer chains over anything that damages their own high self-esteem and causes embarrassment. Freedom is messy, previous exercises of freedom quite possibly have had that fact glossed over when the history was written
     

    Ingomike

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    They weren't actually. They were Antifa infiltrators, just like all of the other riots. You'd have to be a hypocrite to not be willing to accept that fact.

    Oh wait....
    The best evidence they were infiltrators is the lack of confrontations reported between Trump supporters and antifa types...
     

    KittySlayer

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    GRAPHIC FOOTAGE: Police fatally shoot a Trump supporter inside the Capitol building.
    A question regarding the tactical situation.

    Not knowing the layout of the building I am wondering if perhaps this doorway might have been the last line of defense before the secure area where the politicians were cowering in fear (and protected by the guns they want to deny us)? The shooting is awful but with a small police force faced by a large mob of unknown intention was it necessary to defend this final choke point with deadly force?
     

    BugI02

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    Do anyone here believe that what happened in City X in any way justifies what happened in DC?
    Does anyone here believe that what happened in Minneapolis in any way justified looting and burning and murder in cities X,Y,Z,A,B,C,D,F,G,H,I,J,K,L,M,N,O,P,Q,R,S,T,W,X1,Y1 ...

    Maybe shouldn't complain so much when the skirmish is conducted via the RoE that have been set. Too late to retconn the 'mostly peaceful protest' narrative
     

    Ingomike

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    Is it in the realm of possibilty that what happened in Portland, Seattle, City X AND what happened in DC could both be wrong?

    Even if there is a difference in scale or level of violence, is it in the realm of possibility for any of those making the comparison you are making?

    Do anyone here believe that what happened in City X in any way justifies what happened in DC?
    People that cannot see that antifa is the violence wing of the democratic party and by extension the Chinese communist party have their head in the sand...
     

    foszoe

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    The DC protestors will be held to much higher standards, they committed a cardinal sin - they threatened the illusion that the constitution can protect your rights when it is only paid lip service without action to uphold it

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    They will have the book thrown at them, and the just 'lie back and take it' wing will applaud that
    Wing of what group?
     

    BugI02

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    A question regarding the tactical situation.

    Not knowing the layout of the building I am wondering if perhaps this doorway might have been the last line of defense before the secure area where the politicians were cowering in fear (and protected by the guns they want to deny us)? The shooting is awful but with a small police force faced by a large mob of unknown intention was it necessary to defend this final choke point with deadly force?

    Reflecting on a similar situation at Kent State, I believe Mr Young told us that the small force should allow itself to be overrun rather than shoot protestors
     

    foszoe

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    People that cannot see that antifa is the violence wing of the democratic party and by extension the Chinese communist party have their head in the sand...
    Not sure why this was in a reply to my post as I didn't even discuss these subjects.
     

    drillsgt

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    A question regarding the tactical situation.

    Not knowing the layout of the building I am wondering if perhaps this doorway might have been the last line of defense before the secure area where the politicians were cowering in fear (and protected by the guns they want to deny us)? The shooting is awful but with a small police force faced by a large mob of unknown intention was it necessary to defend this final choke point with deadly force?
    If she was that much of a threat she probably would have been dealt with by the 4-5 heavily armed police that were already nearby? Your analysis could very well be true but I still don't think it was necessary at that point.
     

    foszoe

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    Does anyone here believe that what happened in Minneapolis in any way justified looting and burning and murder in cities X,Y,Z,A,B,C,D,F,G,H,I,J,K,L,M,N,O,P,Q,R,S,T,W,X1,Y1 ...

    Maybe shouldn't complain so much when the skirmish is conducted via the RoE that have been set. Too late to retconn the 'mostly peaceful protest' narrative
    Please point me to my complaint so I can address your concerns.
     

    KittySlayer

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    If she was that much of a threat she probably would have been dealt with by the 4-5 heavily armed police that were already nearby? Your analysis could very well be true but I still don't think it was necessary at that point.
    Did the shooter (in a suit) even know there was a stack of uniformed officers just down the stairs? Shooter probably could not visually see those armed police and maybe a different jurisdiction without radio communication.
     
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