Politically Motivated Violence Thread PART 2

[Route 45]

Okay, some put together the sequence of events with the Denver Post photos, the complete set.

The shooter was going for his gun BEFORE the bear spray was deployed.

https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politi...ad-in-denver-media-tiptoes-around-it-n1038934

Looks like straight up murder to me.

[video=youtube;oWA2lxZ7-Kk]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWA2lxZ7-Kk&feature=youtu.be[/video]

 

[jamil]

Looks like straight up murder to me.

[video=youtube;oWA2lxZ7-Kk]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWA2lxZ7-Kk&feature=youtu.be[/video]

I wouldn’t be surprised if a murder charge doesn’t stick. This is Denver after all. But they’ll get him on working as a security guard without a license.

 

[KG1]

Looks to me like the shooter drew his gun as a reaction to getting slapped and the guy with the pepper spray deployed it as a reaction to the shooter drawing his gun in an attempt to keep from getting shot. That attempt was unfortunately futile.

 

[jamil]

That’s what it looked like to me.

 

[Route 45]

I don't think that anyone could have reasonably believed that the "security guard" was working security in an official capacity. I don't see any uniform, badges, markings or any other indicators of a security person. It appears that he drew from concealment from his waistband or an appendix holster, which is odd for a security professional. Guarding a news crew doesn't seem like a plainclothes security detail like dignitary protection might be. Would this have played out differently if it was readily apparent that he was security personnel for the news crew, instead of just some dude with a Glock and a bad haircut?

 

[jamil]

I don't think that anyone could have reasonably believed that the "security guard" was working security in an official capacity. I don't see any uniform, badges, markings or any other indicators of a security person. It appears that he drew from concealment from his waistband or an appendix holster, which is odd for a security professional. Guarding a news crew doesn't seem like a plainclothes security detail like dignitary protection might be. Would this have played out differently if it was readily apparent that he was security personnel for the news crew, instead of just some dude with a Glock and a bad haircut?

Plain clothes for protecting press isn’t surprising. The guy who disarmed the antifa ******* who stole the guns from a parked police cruiser was plain clothes.

 

[BugI02]

Yeah, but even God can't hit a one-iron. Lee Trevino is the only one living or dead that could hit that club.

I can hit one. I close the face and use it to hit out of the woods instead of taking a drop. Can't hit it the way it's supposed to be used

 

[Route 45]

Plain clothes for protecting press isn’t surprising. The guy who disarmed the antifa ******* who stole the guns from a parked police cruiser was plain clothes.

You're right, I shouldn't be surprised. We live in a world where plainclothes no-knock warrants are a good idea.

 

[KellyinAvon]

We are living in a time where pictures that would have won Pulitzer Prizes 50 years ago are plentiful and available everywhere. We are living in very different times on many levels. Just an observation...

 

[KellyinAvon]

Tig Tiegen is on Tucker Carlson, he was in Denver.

 

[Twangbanger]

I generally do not blame anyone for protecting themselves against deployment of any kind of weapon (and certainly would not burn down a Wendy's over it).

However the more film comes out on this one, the more it looks like this shooter actually did what George Zimmerman was alleged to have done, which is to engage in a physical altercation, start losing it, then "win" it with a gun.

I have not seen what happened afterward, but it seems the police showed admirable restraint in not capping him straight away. If I did what this guy did, in full view of law enforcement standing nearby, I would expect to have a better-than-average chance of getting capped, rightly or wrongly. He is probably really lucky to be alive.

 

[jamil]

It wasn’t a beat down. “Security guard” tried to reach into the guy’s vest or whatever, dude didn’t like it and ***** slapped the sun glasses off his face. Then “security guard” drew his weapon and fired.

 

[Route 45]

[video=youtube;D_WJTPvl5tg]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_WJTPvl5tg[/video]

 

[Kutnupe14]

Looks like straight up murder to me.

[video=youtube;oWA2lxZ7-Kk]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWA2lxZ7-Kk&feature=youtu.be[/video]

How do you figure exactly?

 

[Route 45]

How do you figure exactly?

I'm not going to play your annoying little ****ing game, where I say "He responded to an open hand smack with deadly force," and then you say "BuT kYlE rITtEnHouSe," like the situations are remotely similar.

Go away, troll.

 

[Kutnupe14]

It wasn’t a beat down. “Security guard” tried to reach into the guy’s vest or whatever, dude didn’t like it and ***** slapped the sun glasses off his face. Then “security guard” drew his weapon and fired.

Where are go getting this “reach into his vest” stuff? What, you think he was trying to pickpocket the guy? I looks like given the body language (deceased leaning in) that Doloff is trying maintain distance by raising his hand, and is subsequently slapped. Doloff then begins to draw down on the deceased, and the deceased begins to deploy spray. At that point he gets smoked. Other those who are obviously sympathetic to a person who they see as being representative of “their side,” I don’t see how anyone can say that this shooting was over the top. Shot by shot, it seems good.

 

[Kutnupe14]

I'm not going to play your annoying little ****ing game, where I say "He responded to an open hand smack with deadly force," and then you say "BuT kYlE rITtEnHouSe," like the situations are remotely similar.

Go away, troll.

Im sorry, did I offend your sensibilities by asking a legitimate question?
Hmmm... I can’t seem to remember, did I say that Kyle Rittenhouse was in the wrong during his incident? Can anyone remind me?

 

[Hatin Since 87]

All I know is if a cop shot a black man that had bear spray in the head like this half the city would be burned down

 

[Kutnupe14]

All I know is if a cop shot a black man that had bear spray in the head like this half the city would be burned down

Absolutely true. And the people here who think this was a bad shoot, would amazingly find justification.

 

[churchmouse]

And you kids just can not stop can you.

Locked.