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    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1313186529058136070


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    “HE’S BACK” - THE PRESIDENT’S DOCTOR SAYS THE PRESIDENT HAS LARGELY RECOVERED
    by Kevin Ryan

    Dr. Sean Conley, the President’s physician, gave a news conference today following word that President Trump will be released from the hospital at 6:30pm. Conley says the President actually “met most of his discharge requirements yesterday.”

    CURRENT STATUS

    • Kidney and liver function continue to be normal.
    • The cough is gone.
    • No trouble breathing.
    • No neurological symptoms.
    •He has maintained a full schedule, and has been fully ambulatory without any issues.
    • Temperature: 98.1. He has not been on fever reducing medicines for the last 72 hours.
    • Blood Pressure: 134/78
    • Heart Rate: 68 bpm
    • Oxygen Saturation: 97%. When he was administered oxygen, “it wasn’t a matter of him needing it. He was breathing fine.” It was because his levels had dropped slightly. They came back up quickly.

    “You’ve seen the tweets and videos and statements from the President,” Dr. Conley said about the President’s current condition. “He’s back.”


    The President will leave Walter Reed and return to the White House at 6:30pm this evening.
    “We try to get a patient out of the hospital as soon as medically possible. Every day a patient stays in a hospital is a risk to the patient.”

    The President will continue to be tested to determine whether he is contagious as he approaches the 7 to 10 day window of contagiousness. Medical and security staff have been wearing full PPE.

    “He has been a phenomenal patient.”

    He remains on his course of dexamethasone, and will have his 4th dose of Remdesivir before he leaves, and his 5th and final at the White House tomorrow.


    SOURCES: Televised press conference on CNN and Fox News
     

    jamil

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    Go back a few pages. I linked the cdc total death numbers for 2019. If you’re not willing then I don’t care.

    That doesn't really say what you want it to say though. If the total death numbers for this year, with covid, is less than the total deaths last year, without covid, that doesn't say anything about the impact of covid on total dealths, because we don't know what the total deaths would have been without covid this year. It's also not helpful to subtract the number of deaths from covid from the total deaths this year, and compare that number to last years' deaths because, especially since a lot of the covid deaths happened to older people with co-morbidities. So many of them may have died this year anyway. And one more, it's not useful to compare last year to this year because we don't know what deaths didn't happen that might have because of covid. For example, the flu season was cut off short as soon as people started becoming a lot more cautious about germs. Flu numbers plummeted after people started changing their behaviors that spread germs.
     

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    https://www.facebook.com/UnbiasedAmerica/posts/1448430182009639

    “HE’S BACK” - THE PRESIDENT’S DOCTOR SAYS THE PRESIDENT HAS LARGELY RECOVERED
    by Kevin Ryan

    Dr. Sean Conley, the President’s physician, gave a news conference today following word that President Trump will be released from the hospital at 6:30pm. Conley says the President actually “met most of his discharge requirements yesterday.”

    CURRENT STATUS

    • Kidney and liver function continue to be normal.
    • The cough is gone.
    • No trouble breathing.
    • No neurological symptoms.
    •He has maintained a full schedule, and has been fully ambulatory without any issues.
    • Temperature: 98.1. He has not been on fever reducing medicines for the last 72 hours.
    • Blood Pressure: 134/78
    • Heart Rate: 68 bpm
    • Oxygen Saturation: 97%. When he was administered oxygen, “it wasn’t a matter of him needing it. He was breathing fine.” It was because his levels had dropped slightly. They came back up quickly.

    “You’ve seen the tweets and videos and statements from the President,” Dr. Conley said about the President’s current condition. “He’s back.”


    The President will leave Walter Reed and return to the White House at 6:30pm this evening.
    “We try to get a patient out of the hospital as soon as medically possible. Every day a patient stays in a hospital is a risk to the patient.”

    The President will continue to be tested to determine whether he is contagious as he approaches the 7 to 10 day window of contagiousness. Medical and security staff have been wearing full PPE.

    “He has been a phenomenal patient.”

    He remains on his course of dexamethasone, and will have his 4th dose of Remdesivir before he leaves, and his 5th and final at the White House tomorrow.


    SOURCES: Televised press conference on CNN and Fox News

    Been busy today with work so I haven't gotten around to looking at twitter. If it's as insane as yesterday, probably of the two conspiracy theories, the one that says Trump's covid infection was a hoax to use as an excuse not to debate Biden again. The other conspiracy theory was that the white house was hiding just how bad Trump was, that he was practically on his death bed. People were even analyzing the shadows on the still images released by the White House of Trump "working" while at WR. Oh. And they even analyzed the paper in the image and came to the conclusion it was blank. And it may have been, because it was obviously a staged photo to show that Trump was not laid up in bed. Pretty unhinged speculations coming from crazy people on Twitter, many of them members of the press.
     

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    That doesn't really say what you want it to say though. If the total death numbers for this year, with covid, is less than the total deaths last year, without covid, that doesn't say anything about the impact of covid on total dealths, because we don't know what the total deaths would have been without covid this year. It's also not helpful to subtract the number of deaths from covid from the total deaths this year, and compare that number to last years' deaths because, especially since a lot of the covid deaths happened to older people with co-morbidities. So many of them may have died this year anyway. And one more, it's not useful to compare last year to this year because we don't know what deaths didn't happen that might have because of covid. For example, the flu season was cut off short as soon as people started becoming a lot more cautious about germs. Flu numbers plummeted after people started changing their behaviors that spread germs.
    Total deaths through September so that we are looking at apples and apples and not apples/oranges. This years total deaths through October 2 was 2.xxM where as last year through September was 2.xx(30k more). It listed total deaths per
    month. I’m on my phone or I’d do it all over again To make it easy. Any more I’m not bothering. Even with solid info people are already set in their ideas and don’t care. So why should I put in the effort to show my work when they don’t even look at it?
     

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    Total deaths through September so that we are looking at apples and apples and not apples/oranges. This years total deaths through October 2 was 2.xxM where as last year through September was 2.xx(30k more). It listed total deaths per
    month. I’m on my phone or I’d do it all over again To make it easy. Any more I’m not bothering. Even with solid info people are already set in their ideas and don’t care. So why should I put in the effort to show my work when they don’t even look at it?
    Well, I think what jamil is saying is that the additional precautions that everyone took due to covid also reduced the transmission/mortality rate of regular flu or other respiratory illnesses, so the only fair comparison would be if nobody had done anything this year to take those extra precautions. The only apples to apples comparison would be comparing January to March of this year and last.
     

    jamil

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    Total deaths through September so that we are looking at apples and apples and not apples/oranges. This years total deaths through October 2 was 2.xxM where as last year through September was 2.xx(30k more). It listed total deaths per
    month. I’m on my phone or I’d do it all over again To make it easy. Any more I’m not bothering. Even with solid info people are already set in their ideas and don’t care. So why should I put in the effort to show my work when they don’t even look at it?

    Well, no. I saw your other post. I just dont' think it's saying all that you think. But maybe I'm misinterpreting what you think it says.

    here’s where it gets interesting. That chart shows total US deaths to be 2,104,000 deaths through October 2. They are saying this is 112% of the expected deaths. If you look at the monthly totals from 2019 (https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/provisional-tables.htm) they total 2,134,000 deaths through September. Now I’m no rocket surgeon but 2.10M seems Like it would be less than 2.13M. In fact it looks like it would be 99.5% and not 112%. Their number suggests that last year we would have been at 1.7M deaths when we weren’t.

    Okay, so I'm taking your word for what the data says. You're saying that last year's number of deaths is 30K higher than this years. But we don't always have the same number of deaths each year. Things fluctuate based on different variables. It seems to me that you're saying that because last years number of deaths is actually higher than this years, it must mean covid can't be as deadly as they say. If that's what you're saying, comparing last years deaths to this years deaths can't really tell you that, for the reasons I stated.
     
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