Ah ha. You mean this?
"Brand new mint condition in box with 3 mags and all accessories. Only fired a couple of times."
I'm not sure how that works...
"Brand new mint condition in box with 3 mags and all accessories. Only fired a couple of times."
I don't see the problem. Take your favorite new gun, shoot it a couple times, clean it up, if it is not still in "Brand new mint condition" after firing a couple rounds then something was very wrong when they built it.
It is no longer "brand new in mint condition" then. It's a fired, used gun.
Kind of started this partly as humor, partly as .
Serious question now. For those that say this is still BNIB, at what point does that not apply any longer? 50 rounds? 100? Once something doesn't look "minty fresh" anymore? How about time? I can carry a brand new gun for a month, maybe 2 without marking it up, is it still new at that point? What about if I carried it but never fired it at all?
IMO way too much to take into consideration. BNIB mint condition should mean the gun is unfired, uncarried, unmolested, it's as it was before it left the dealer's shelf. Anything more than that is a used gun. It may be in excellent condition, but it's still used.
Kind of started this partly as humor, partly as .
Serious question now. For those that say this is still BNIB, at what point does that not apply any longer? 50 rounds? 100? Once something doesn't look "minty fresh" anymore? How about time? I can carry a brand new gun for a month, maybe 2 without marking it up, is it still new at that point? What about if I carried it but never fired it at all?
IMO way too much to take into consideration. BNIB mint condition should mean the gun is unfired, uncarried, unmolested, it's as it was before it left the dealer's shelf. Anything more than that is a used gun. It may be in excellent condition, but it's still used.
I took your first post in the tone in which you meant it, and I agree: unfired, uncarried, unmolested, just like it was when it left the dealer's shelf.
I have to respectfully disagree with those who say guns are not like cars; I think there is likely, in most cases, depreciation as soon as it is sold for the first time. Cars, guns, potato peelers- everything has a value, and that is what people will for it.
Does that work for toilets too?I don't see the problem. Take your favorite new gun, shoot it a couple times, clean it up, if it is not still in "Brand new mint condition" after firing a couple rounds then something was very wrong when they built it.
i read awhile back that one 1911 gun maker might shoot 150 rounds through a pistol before shipping it....
BNIB mint condition should mean the gun is unfired, .
Do any manufacturers sell unfired guns? Not saying some might not but am used to seeing a couple empty cases packaged with a new gun fairly commonly and I wonder about insurance liability.
Does that work for toilets too?