The OFFICIAL Trump/HRC/2016 General Election Thread...

[churchmouse]

i completely disagree. They did not make him. His comments resonated with the people and he made himself. The media did not vote for trump, they slammed his immigration comments and he vaulted to the top. They trashed him and he launched right back at the media and his supporters loved him for it.

they have tried numerous times to take him out, yet here he is holding rallies for 10,000 people. Hillary can't draw 500.

i completely agree the media is absurd and can basically elect the democrat every cycle no matter who they are. Imm hoping with trump running this will break the republican problem of abandoning their people when anything potentially bad is revealed. Just accept everyone is human and move on, don't kick them to the curb for stupidity. Like Trent Lott at Strom thurmond's burthday. Absolutely stupid.

There were rumors that many of the small crowds were bused in for the cameras. No links for this.

 

[MisterChester]

If the GOP continues to not help their nominee, I will refuse to vote for Republicans at all. Screw that party. Just as terrible as democrats. If Trump doesn't win I will gladly cheer for the end of the GOP since they did absolutely nothing meaningful to get him elected. They never wanted him. They wanted another Bush-Clinton election. They'd rather Hillary win. Shameful. I've lost all hope for them.

 

[churchmouse]

If the GOP continues to not help their nominee, I will refuse to vote for Republicans at all. Screw that party. Just as terrible as democrats. If Trump doesn't win I will gladly cheer for the end of the GOP since they did absolutely nothing meaningful to get him elected. They never wanted him. They wanted another Bush-Clinton election. They'd rather Hillary win. Shameful. I've lost all hope for them.

There is no real "Hope" as we see it for either party. Follow the money/power.

 

[jamil]

You're telling me, people who can't beat someone you lot considered to be a joke, had a chance against the full media might of the DNC?

Oh yeah, their polls look great then. They wouldn't look so great after being labeled white nationalists and racists.

Trump had media bravado, he knows how the game plays out and how to handle situations that would be career ending for most.

I think you should study the entire primary election, events, circumstances, to figure out how that really happened, with an open mind.

 

[jamil]

I'm saying that NeverTrumpers have been unsuccessful so far. Why would we pay any attention to them now?

Because NeverTrumpers > Trumpers. It's as simple as math. Trumpers have to rely on people who are only voting for Trump for pragmatic reasons to even get him polling into the 40s. 67% of Americans are not Trumpers.

 

[jbombelli]

Are you serious? The VAST majority of polls during the primary showed Trump fairing FAR worse against Clinton than several candidates. That is either incredibly disingenuous or incredibly misinformed.

Lol. He slaughtered everyone else that was running. If he ultimately loses it will be because all those people who continually harped about wanting something different, wanting someone from outside the established political elite, were ultimately full of ****.

 

[jamil]

I'd like to say a few words on the Trump "*****" comments issue.

I find it rip-roaringly funny that a political/cultural movements, modernist/statist/leftist "progressivism" stands agape about a man's desire for "*****". These are the same people who celebrate and promote, at every turn:

* a candidate whose husband has been accused of rape by multiple women and was impeached for an extra-marital affair with an intern;
* a party/cultural movement which celebrates a plethora of non-traditional sexual practices, including man-man, women-women, and all variations possible;
* a party/cultural movement which celebrates and advocates men using women's bathrooms and women using men's bathrooms as a target (pun intended) to achieve "diversity";
* a party/cultural movement and media whose supporters celebrate and graphically depict, in both film and music they create, all manner of sexual activity and recreational drug use;

but they are now adamantly against a man for saying saying he wants some "*****"? Should he have said, "Simon says I want some *****" first?

I know they think we are all rubes, but how ****ing stupid and asinine must they be to not believe there is a great inconsistency in their position, both intellectually and morally?

Their motto is essentially, "If someone is horny and wants to ****" or "If someone is horny and wants to..." it is OK -- unless it is DJT or anyone otherwise not giving them blanket approval for their libertine world view.

In all honesty, they need to get off America's lawn...

If we had an honest press, Bill Clinton would be just as much anathema to America as Trump. The problem with both of them isn't the fact that they have their minds on ***** most of the time. What male doesn't? It's that they've abused their place in society to force getting what they want and get away with it. That's just not normal behavior. Do YOU go around grabbing every hot women's ***** you see? No. You'd be arrested for sexual assault. But people like Bill Clinton and Donald Trump feel entitled to just take what they want because of their power. That makes Trump a ***** ass punk in my book. Someone needs to punch both those mother****ers in the face.

 

[BugI02]

If the GOP continues to not help their nominee, I will refuse to vote for Republicans at all. Screw that party. Just as terrible as democrats. If Trump doesn't win I will gladly cheer for the end of the GOP since they did absolutely nothing meaningful to get him elected. They never wanted him. They wanted another Bush-Clinton election. They'd rather Hillary win. Shameful. I've lost all hope for them.

I believe they still operate under the delusion that they can pick up the pieces and remake their little playhouse just the way they want it. Some on INGO are already talking about how now we can all work together to mitigate the damage Clinton will cause - damage that they helped enable. NOW they want to work together to further the party

I think they own it, they obviously think their hands are clean.

I shall work towards living long enough to see George Will run out of town on a rail and The National Review starved into bankruptcy (and hopefully purchased by Trump or Murdoch)

 

[jamil]

Lol. He slaughtered everyone else that was running. If he ultimately loses it will be because all those people who continually harped about wanting something different, wanting someone from outside the established political elite, were ultimately full of ****.

The primary system isn't transitive. I have no idea why people think it is. a > b and b > c then a > c does not hold for our electoral system and particularly for primary candidates in general elections. How else can the RNC and the DNC nominate the two candidates with the worst favorability ratings in history?

Our primary system is ripe for unelectable fringe candidates winning in divisive periods.

 

[Spear Dane]

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[jamil]

I believe they still operate under the delusion that they can pick up the pieces and remake their little playhouse just the way they want it. Some on INGO are already talking about how now we can all work together to mitigate the damage Clinton will cause - damage that they helped enable. NOW they want to work together to further the party

I think they own it, they obviously think their hands are clean.

I shall work towards living long enough to see George Will run out of town on a rail and The National Review starved into bankruptcy (and hopefully purchased by Trump or Murdoch)

You say that as if you think the people who don't want Trump actually want Hillary, and that they'll take Hillary over Trump because we can work together to mitigate the damage.

That's not the case. The situation is this. I see it as needing to work together to mitigate the damage done by whichever is the winner. Right now that's probably gonna be Hillary. As it stands, I'm voting straight ticket Republican, except I reserve the right to write in Al Bundy for POTUS because I think he Trump is every bit as dangerous to individual liberty as Hillary Clinton.

 

[actaeon277]

Everyone should write in actaeon277.

 

[jamil]

Everyone should write in actaeon277.

I could possibly do that. I'm open to different write-ins. What's your i-side-with score?

 

[MisterChester]

I believe they still operate under the delusion that they can pick up the pieces and remake their little playhouse just the way they want it. Some on INGO are already talking about how now we can all work together to mitigate the damage Clinton will cause - damage that they helped enable. NOW they want to work together to further the party

I think they own it, they obviously think their hands are clean.

I shall work towards living long enough to see George Will run out of town on a rail and The National Review starved into bankruptcy (and hopefully purchased by Trump or Murdoch)

As shown in the leaked Hillary speeches, the parties are two sides of the same big-business globalist coin. They never wanted Trump to win but they couldn't stop the people from voting for him. Their hands got dirty when they started to conspire with Hillary.

 

[ghitch75]

Trump, Pence vow to fight on together after emergence of damaging tape | Fox News

 

[spec4]

To me, its not about the press, Trump, or Clinton. It's about SCOTUS and our Constitution. Four more years of Dem "leadership" will be the end for us.

 

[RMC]

Oh bother! It's almost time for me to vote and here I am torn between two individuals. One is an older man that said some bad things 11 years ago. If it were anything nobody had heard before then they wouldn't have a clue what he was talking about. Oh well, naughty, naughty on him. The other is an older woman that has been in one legal scandal after another for decades. Is it possible that these have all been fabricated like she says? Every single one of them? That seems highly unlikely. Some of these scandals involve taking money for Governmental favors, and some involve carelessly handling Confidential, Classified, or Top Secret emails that may have jeopardised our National Security.

The older man is abrasive at times, crude at times, insulting at times but he always seems to be sincere about the direction this Country should be going. Besides, who really cares what he said 11 years ago and how does it pertain to the disaster we have in Washington D.C. today?

The woman on the other hand has been accused of illegal activity, unethical activity, and even lying to the public, FBI, and Congress. I believe the lying has been proven without any doubts. However, many of these issues are recent, not over a decade ago, and I'm having a difficult time believing the volume of erased emails, the destroyed cell phones and all the witnesses getting immunity then pleading the 5th is much more than coincidence. How could any logical thinking individual think otherwise?

Do I vote for someone that made some controversial comments a decade ago and long before even thinking about running for President, OR, vote for someone that lies to the FBI, Congress, AND the American People. Can anyone really trust anything the woman says? She has a rally and says she will work hard to make Wall Street pay their fair share but then we find out she's telling Wall Street that she has their back.

I don't see how what the man said could damage anyone or anything in the USA. Heck, I had an all out crush on Barbara Eden when I was young and fantasies that could damage my heart at my current age. I can't say or even think what the woman has done or accomplished as being anything other than detrimenal to the confidence our citizens have in the Government. I think we need more accountability, ethics, truthfulness, and lawfulness in our Government, and especially in the Oval Office. How Hillary Clinton is still in this race is beyond any comprehension. Its hard to believe so many voters are willing to thow away the ideals that made this Country great for the false promises she offers for the sole purpose of getting votes. She IS NOT what any American could want in our Government if they are sincere about the wellbeing of this Country.

Mr. Trump has said he was sorry for his comments and he was very sincere when he did so. When Hillary apologized for the Deplorable comment, she was only sorry because her comment didn't get the reaction she was hoping for. Think about it.

Donald Trump, or I should probably say Mr. President, you have more than demonstrated your dream and commitment to bring accountability and integrity back to our elected officials and to make America great again. You will have my vote on November 8th without fail and hopefully we will finally be rid of the Clintons and all their baggage for good.

 

[jbombelli]

The primary system isn't transitive. I have no idea why people think it is. a > b and b > c then a > c does not hold for our electoral system and particularly for primary candidates in general elections. How else can the RNC and the DNC nominate the two candidates with the worst favorability ratings in history?

Our primary system is ripe for unelectable fringe candidates winning in divisive periods.

They couldn't beat him in their own primary system. He was stronger than all of them and the entire GOP. There is no reason to believe, other than wishful thinking, that any of them would have a chance in hell to beat Hillary. And they are now working with Hillary to protect their status quo.

Too bad so many just want to jump on that bandwagon.

 

[BugI02]

The primary system isn't transitive. I have no idea why people think it is. a > b and b > c then a > c does not hold for our electoral system and particularly for primary candidates in general elections. How else can the RNC and the DNC nominate the two candidates with the worst favorability ratings in history?

Our primary system is ripe for unelectable fringe candidates winning in divisive periods.

On the DNC side, the fix was always in for The Witch

On the RNC side, they over-estimated their ability to put the fix in for Jeb!

 

[jamil]

On the DNC side, the fix was always in for The Witch

On the RNC side, they over-estimated their ability to put the fix in for Jeb!

Jeb was never the real fix. He was soundly rejected by a large majority of GOP voters. Please keep in mind while reflecting on that, that Trump did not win a majority of the GOP votes cast in the primary.