Obama pays $400 million to Iran who releases four hostages

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  • two70

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    And we are to totally ignore the timing of this.
    From the exact same administration that for four years straight received mails from and sent e-mail responses back to their own Secretary of State, who was using what was clearly an unauthorized e-mail address the entire time.
    But, hey, at least they have that capital "D" next to their names, so they will be excused, regardless of what they do.

    Why would anyone in the administration have a problem with Hillary using an illegal private server for public business when many in the administration created fictitious emails accounts for the same purpose of avoiding FOIA?
     

    oldpink

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    Why would anyone in the administration have a problem with Hillary using an illegal private server for public business when many in the administration created fictitious emails accounts for the same purpose of avoiding FOIA?

    Yep, and there were many.
    The insufferable Tom Perez and the secretary of energy "liking" her own comments with an anonymous account.
    Nixon was a piker by comparison to this administration, top to bottom populated by douchebags of the highest order.
     

    david890

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    ok.... Let's say you are a private group. You spent $1 million on operation expenses and $500,000 on painting widgets. Then the government gives you $1,000,000 and tells you that you can NOT spend it on painting widgets. So next year's budget is $2.5m. You spend $1 million on operations, and $1.5 million on painting widgets. You did not spend a dime of the government's money on painting widgets but you tripled the number of widgets you painted. Any fool would say the government funding was used to paint more widgets.

    explain to me how you can prove which income was spent on which expense in a co-mingled account.

    Why do assume that the group will increase its output of widgets? I could just as easily claim that of that new $2.5M budget, $2M will go to operations (pay raises for everyone!!) and keep the widget budget at $500K. Are you arguing that, somehow, increasing the budget of PP will increase the number of women seeking an abortion? AFAIK, the women still have to walk in; PP doesn't go door-to-door.

    Expenses on a co-mingled account? I'll leave that to an accountant and/or tax lawyer. I'm sure companies have to give *some* proof that money ear-marked for specific programs has to be spent on those programs.
     

    david890

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    And we are to totally ignore the timing of this.
    From the exact same administration that for four years straight received mails from and sent e-mail responses back to their own Secretary of State, who was using what was clearly an unauthorized e-mail address the entire time.
    But, hey, at least they have that capital "D" next to their names, so they will be excused, regardless of what they do.


    So, after George Bush' term is up, the RNC deletes 22 MILLION e-mails from their private server and there's NO investigation by the House Oversight Committee? Unpossible!!!

    Now tell me who was "excused" from investigation and who was not. Don't forget about Colin Powell's private server, or Condi Rice's...
     

    IndyDave1776

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    Let's ask George Bush to account for the $12B in cash that was flown into Iraq in 2004, with $2B on a single day....

    Your post is predicated on the notion that everyone loves George. Let me assure you that this is not the case. Many of us would have considered him the 'picking up the turd by the clean end' candidate.
     

    Tombs

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    Let's ask George Bush to account for the $12B in cash that was flown into Iraq in 2004, with $2B on a single day....

    Bush is out of office.

    Obama is currently in office. Who has the capacity to do more harm to us?

    Regardless how much I hate Bush and his entire administration, he's irrelevant now.
     

    jamil

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    Why do assume that the group will increase its output of widgets? I could just as easily claim that of that new $2.5M budget, $2M will go to operations (pay raises for everyone!!) and keep the widget budget at $500K. Are you arguing that, somehow, increasing the budget of PP will increase the number of women seeking an abortion? AFAIK, the women still have to walk in; PP doesn't go door-to-door.

    Expenses on a co-mingled account? I'll leave that to an accountant and/or tax lawyer. I'm sure companies have to give *some* proof that money ear-marked for specific programs has to be spent on those programs.

    Ledgers are tools of accountants. Are you arguing that money is not fungible?
     

    Kutnupe14

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    Your post is predicated on the notion that everyone loves George. Let me assure you that this is not the case. Many of us would have considered him the 'picking up the turd by the clean end' candidate.

    Everytime I hear this, I chuckle. Is that original to TWD?
     

    oldpink

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    So, after George Bush' term is up, the RNC deletes 22 MILLION e-mails from their private server and there's NO investigation by the House Oversight Committee? Unpossible!!!

    Now tell me who was "excused" from investigation and who was not. Don't forget about Colin Powell's private server, or Condi Rice's...

    You can get back with me with your faux sanctimony the moment you can point to a high official in the Bush administration putting tens of thousands of e-mails, including multiple top secret documents, out there for whatever hacker wants them.
    And, no, neither Powell nor Rice actually set up a private server to totally bypass FOIA, putting their correspondence in an unsecured system.
    It's typical to flail about and play moral equivalency, though.
    The Bush administration ended nearly eight years ago.
    Time to admit that your precious Obama and all of his little minions is a failure of the highest order.
     
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    amboy49

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    Let's ask George Bush to account for the $12B in cash that was flown into Iraq in 2004, with $2B on a single day....


    Really ? ! Obama gets criticized so you drag up Bush ? After 8 years ? ! So if Bush did "it" (fill in the appropriate perceived misdeed) that makes what Obama just did okay ? ! !

    Whut ? ! ! ! When will whatever Obama does ever stop being Bush's fault ? When will someone say regardless of the party affiliation, an act was done against the better interest of the United States. I believe the Japanese have a management style that tries to find a solution to a problem rather than find who to blame for the problem that exists. Perhaps that's why they usurped our manufacturing dominance. Too many on here, and throughout government, would rather find fault than a solution.
     

    jamil

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    Really ? ! Obama gets criticized so you drag up Bush ? After 8 years ? ! So if Bush did "it" (fill in the appropriate perceived misdeed) that makes what Obama just did okay ? !.
    "But Bush!" is a common lefty deflection. It's inevitable in a given interaction.
     

    bwframe

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    Are we foolish enough to allow Hillary to get elected for a "third term" of Obama?

    Forget about the 2A and Supreme Court justices... :dunno:
     

    jamil

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    I think it would be perfectly legit in the negotiation to say, "okay, you want the cash and other demands, throw in release of hostages and you have a deal." I wouldn't have a problem with that by itself. But this doesn't really seem like it's just that. Why the secrecy? Especially given the nation's sensitivities about dealing with Iranians in the first place. Frankly I find the fact that we're dealing with them at all is the real problem. The rest is just vomit frosting on a **** cake.
     

    1DOWN4UP

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    The Kenyan just said on CNBC that they bundled all of the Iranian dealings into on trip to save fuel and lessen our carbon footprint.It was not a ransom.
     

    printcraft

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    The Kenyan just said on CNBC that they bundled all of the Iranian dealings into on trip to save fuel and lessen our carbon footprint.It was not a ransom.

    No ****ing way he said that! :facepalm: This guy is just rubbing our noses in it. Classless.
     

    GGF

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    The MSM is shuffling the story off the front page.

    400 million to fund ISIS isn't worth looking into or talking about I suppose.

    I thought this was the main story of the week, silly me.

    GGF
     
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