Loud Music Trial

[Kutnupe14]

So, K-14, what happens in modern day Urban Yout Land here in the US when somebody disrespects some gangbanging thug? Does said thug slink home with his tail between his legs, or do things tend to get sort of "Western", sort of sudden-like?

I have no idea the point you're trying to make. Are you saying death, following being disrespected, should be and is acceptable in our society?
I used the Feudal Japan example, because such was both understood and expected in cases of tarnish honor, even to the point that one would kill themselves (47 Samurai, for instance).

 

[hornadylnl]

I have no idea the point you're trying to make. Are you saying death, following being disrespected, should be and is acceptable in our society?
I used the Feudal Japan example, because such was both understood and expected in cases of tarnish honor, even to the point that one would kill themselves (47 Samurai, for instance).

You're forgetting the lust for duels around here.

 

[Que]

They got him in jail for quite sometime compared to many thugs who will never see the inside of a prison. A jury spoke it should be game over. It wont be. I have no doubt they will retry him on that one count and if it does not placate some groups then the federal government will charge him at the federal level.

The sad thing is basic manners would have saved the young man's life. I am in no way defending Dunn's actions as they were reckless as hell.

That's a bunch of bull****! I guess you have NEVER been disrespectful in your life? Do you think you should have been killed for it? How about your children or grandchildren (if this applies)? Would you suggest they should be faced with the possibility of being gunned down for showing disrespect? Most people today would get upset if a stranger verbally corrects their child, but sure, it's okay to shoot them down and simply say, "they should have shown more respect." Again, bull****!

 

[LP1]

The picture (#1) of the defendant on this link is priceless. Florida man faces 60 years in prison for shooting teens over loud music | Reuters. He is totally clueless. Unfortunately, his actions will reflect badly on responsible gun owners.

 

[copperhead-1911]

Some wisdom would have saved Dunn's freedom, even if you buy his version of events.

Absolutely

 

[copperhead-1911]

Lol, I'm guessing he won't be working or teaching anyone. For that guy's own safety, he should be set away from gen pop.

WHY?

 

[hornadylnl]

WHY?

Just maybe he'll reap what he has sown while in prison.

 

[copperhead-1911]

So, K-14, what happens in modern day Urban Yout Land here in the US when somebody disrespects some gangbanging thug? Does said thug slink home with his tail between his legs, or do things tend to get sort of "Western", sort of sudden-like?

See Jena six case. I believe the boy beaten savagely was accused of using the n-word. He denied it, but even if he did they had no right to put their hands on him.

There was a case in pa where someone mentioned to a woman about disciplining her child on a bus. She called some thugs and one pulled an ak out of his saggy pants and like two or three started shooting up the bus.

 

[copperhead-1911]

That's a bunch of bull****! I guess you have NEVER been disrespectful in your life? Do you think you should have been killed for it? How about your children or grandchildren (if this applies)? Would you suggest they should be faced with the possibility of being gunned down for showing disrespect? Most people today would get upset if a stranger verbally corrects their child, but sure, it's okay to shoot them down and simply say, "they should have shown more respect." Again, bull****!

You are missing the point. I am not saying at all that it was ok. ANother example is trayvon would be alive if Zimmerman just simply did not follow him.

It is simply the case that basic manners on davis side would have saved his life. Common sense on DUnn side would have avoided it. yes people are disrespectful and no that does not give someone a right to do anything to them, but I would rather my child be alive than dead following the basic guideline I was taught to respect your elders. How hard would it have been to turn it down?

 

[copperhead-1911]

Just maybe he'll reap what he has sown while in prison.

Does not have anything to do with the make up of prisons does it? I could be missing something.

 

[hornadylnl]

I wonder how many muscle car youth from the 50's, 60's, and 70's were shot over their loud pipes. Doesn't have anything to do with the makeup of the drivers, does it?

 

[Que]

You are missing the point. I am not saying at all that it was ok. ANother example is trayvon would be alive if Zimmerman just simply did not follow him.

It is simply the case that basic manners on davis side would have saved his life. Common sense on DUnn side would have avoided it. yes people are disrespectful and no that does not give someone a right to do anything to them, but I would rather my child be alive than dead following the basic guideline I was taught to respect your elders. How hard would it have been to turn it down?

Let's try attaching something concerning the law your thinking. If (insert name) had not (insert crime), then this would not have happened. There is no pushing the blame in this case as in others.

The kid was murdered (certainly second-degree), but the jury could not agree, which I cannot understand. They simply inferred that his actions met the elements for attempted murder, but he was not successful in actually murdering anyone. Yep, that certainly makes sense.

 

[churchmouse]

I wonder how many muscle car youth from the 50's, 60's, and 70's were shot over their loud pipes. Doesn't have anything to do with the makeup of the drivers, does it?

I would be dead many times over. Never was a smart A$$ on a regular basis though. If I was approached in a rough manner I returned in kind. Call it what you will.

 

[Que]

You are missing the point. I am not saying at all that it was ok. ANother example is trayvon would be alive if Zimmerman just simply did not follow him.

It is simply the case that basic manners on davis side would have saved his life. Common sense on DUnn side would have avoided it. yes people are disrespectful and no that does not give someone a right to do anything to them, but I would rather my child be alive than dead following the basic guideline I was taught to respect your elders. How hard would it have been to turn it down?

Let's try attaching something concerning the law to your thinking. If (insert name) had not (insert crime), then this would not have happened. There is no pushing the blame in this case as in others.

The kid was murdered (certainly second-degree), but the jury could not agree, which I cannot understand. They simply inferred that his actions met the elements for attempted murder, but he was not successful in actually murdering anyone. Yep, that certainly makes sense.

 

[ruger1800]

Anyone know what the lyrics were, could the lyrics being played effect the outcome of this trial.

 

[churchmouse]

Anyone know what the lyrics were, could the lyrics being played effect the outcome of this trial.

That crap actually has lyrics???????

 

[Que]

That crap actually has lyrics???????

Probably no different than the crap you listen to.

Anyone know what the lyrics were, could the lyrics being played effect the outcome of this trial.

In what way?

 

[churchmouse]

Probably no different than the crap you listen to.

Really......That is an interesting statement coming from you. I have some very nice sound equipment.
Seems you are a bit tender about this Q. My kids all listen to rap and all the new music. I hear it all. I listen to it all. Country, rock, classic rock, heavy metal. I just do not care for the thump bang boom these youngsters are sharing with us at full volume at the gas pump. That is all. It blares to the point of distortion and who could understand what was being sang......Straight up rap does nothing but irritate me. I am sure some of the old school jamb's I listen to may do the same to others.

Before you take offense with me please note I am totally against this mans actions. I see no racial conflict in this but I do see fail on both sides in the initial contact if story's told are true.
What took place after was just wrong.....if in fact he was not looking down the barrel of a gun. Seems the evidence presented says he was not.

 

[sharkey]

Anyone know what the lyrics were, could the lyrics being played effect the outcome of this trial.

The song is "Beef" by Lil Reese.

Lil Reese hip-hop song 'Beef' at center of deadly confrontation between Michael Dunn and Jordan Davis | members.jacksonville.com

 

[Que]

Really......That is an interesting statement coming from you. I have some very nice sound equipment.
Seems you are a bit tender about this Q. My kids all listen to rap and all the new music. I hear it all. I listen to it all. Country, rock, classic rock, heavy metal. I just do not care for the thump bang boom these youngsters are sharing with us at full volume at the gas pump. That is all. It blares to the point of distortion and who could understand what was being sang......Straight up rap does nothing but irritate me. I am sure some of the old school jamb's I listen to may do the same to others.

Before you take offense with me please note I am totally against this mans actions. I see no racial conflict in this but I do see fail on both sides in the initial contact if story's told are true.
What took place after was just wrong.....if in fact he was not looking down the barrel of a gun. Seems the evidence presented says he was not.

Posts seem to be "interesting" coming from me pretty often. I wasn't at the scene, so I can't determine the quality of sound equipment the kids had in that car. So, if their system was crap, I have no way of knowing.

I'm not tender in any way. I just have to embrace reality. The reality is, someone can see me printing or even if I OC, they can decide to shoot me out of fear and they would probably not be held accountable for their actions. If I'm riding my motorcycle and my CMA patch, they can probably say they thought I was a member of a gang and they feared for their life. This is the reality in which we live.