Certificate of Private Sale

[Jeronimo]

I don't know if this is the best place to post this, but....

What is a good example of a certificate of private sale? What information should I get from the individual? I've searched both INGO and google for a good answer.

Thanks.

 

[Chefcook]

There is nothing required by law. Only that to the best of your knowledge the buyer is not a felon or undesirable person...

 

[public servant]

Here's what I use. I may have gotten it on here. If I did...thanks to the author!! It loses a bit out of MS Word form.



Bill of Sale/Transfer of Ownership

For received, I, _____________________, have sold to ____________________________ one (1) ______________________ firearm description here, Serial # _________________
Accessories: __________________________________________________

I represent that this ________________ is not stolen. I am the owner of the ________________ listed above. If it can be shown now or in the future that this _________________ was stolen prior to the date listed below, I will give the buyer a full refund for return of the _________________ and all accessories listed above.

Sold as is.
No warranty is expressed or implied by the Seller.
Seller assumes no responsibility after transfer of ownership has taken place.
Seller assumes no responsibility of any/all aftermarket parts added to the ______________________.
Seller assumes no responsibility of any/all original equipment parts on the _____________________.
Buyer assumes all responsibility when transfer of ownership has taken place.

Seller specifically disclaims any warranties of merchantability or of fitness for a particular purpose of this ______________________ and disclaims all responsibility for consequential and/or incidental damages or any other losses arising from the use of said ______________________________.

Buyer agrees to the terms and conditions set forth and listed on this document, and acknowledges that he has received a true copy of this Bill of Sale/Transfer of Ownership and certifies that he is 21 years of age or older. Buyer acknowledges and understands that he will read the Owner’s Manual. Buyer agrees that it will be his responsibility when transfer of ownership has taken place to adjust, check, and follow all instructions as outlined in the Owner’s Manual. Buyer attests that he is able to legally buy and possess firearms.

Buyer printed: ______________________________

Seller printed: ______________________________

Date: _______________________________

Buyer signed: ______________________________

State of Residence:____________________

Seller signed: ______________________________

State of Residence: ___________________

 

[Jeronimo]

Now that's what I was lookin' for! Might have to change that "21 years of age or older" to 18.

Thanks a lot!

 

[Boilers]

Writeboard: Enter the password
If anyone here wants to add/edit to it, the password is 1234.
It will show the markup for the edits to see a history of it. Not sure if this sort of stuff would be helpful. Just seeing if it can be a living document to share with everyone and add our collective wisdom to it.

 

[Turtle]

Umm I like to see the pink thing but besides that a hand shake and a thanks works good 4 me. I dont even keep reciepts for guns I bought from the gun-shops.

 

[Boilers]

like to see the pink thing. And you think you can get away with that?

 

[GJ1981]

What information should I get from the individual?

When I have sold the only thing I require is a DL/ID. I know some people give reasons why they will not show a DL but how is someone to know what state someone is from?

I saw this happen at the Fort Wayne gunshow, a man was trying to buy a pistol from a near-by table and was from Ohio. Had the seller not checked his ID someone could have gotten into serious trouble.

I think a bill of sale is great for a sellers piece of mind, but would it hold weight in court if it needed to?

 

[slackerisme]

I took the liberty of converting Publicservant's Bill of Sale into pdf and hosting it here BILL OF SALE. Minor font adjustment made to facilitate one page printing. I hope its ok. Public if you want it off of there just tell me I'll delete it.

 

[MoparMan]

I use the below form. It wont let you save a copy, but you can type in it or print it out.
http://home.comcast.net/~str8shooter44/images/billofsale.pdfftp://texasguntrader.com/billofsale.pdf

 

[public servant]

I took the liberty of converting Publicservant's Bill of Sale into pdf and hosting it here BILL OF SALE. Minor font adjustment made to facilitate one page printing. I hope its ok. Public if you want it off of there just tell me I'll delete it.

Oh no...that's fine with me. I probably stole it off here somewhere....so just call me Joe Biden.

 

[public servant]

I think a bill of sale is great for a sellers piece of mind, but would it hold weight in court if it needed to?

As long as it's not signed under duress it should be a legal and binding document...although some will argue it.

 

[LPMan59]

thanks for the pdf files, guys. these will come in handy.

 

[Hoosier8]

Here is the paperwork I like to see.

Honestly, if someone handed me a sheet to fill out, I probably wouldn't buy. I would show my LTCH though.

 

[MoparMan]

If you buy from a gunshop and have to fill out paperwork why is it any different when you meet some stranger you never meet before to do the same. Just because someone has that pink card does not mean anything. What if buy your gun use in in a murder and the cops question you.

"Sir where is your gun registered to you"
"Officer i sold it to someone with a pink card"
"Ok son time to meet Bubba"

Sorry i really dont want to meet Bubba. Better safe than sorry, but to each his own.

 

[Chefcook]

If you buy from a gunshop and have to fill out paperwork why is it any different when you meet some stranger you never meet before to do the same. Just because someone has that pink card does not mean anything. What if buy your gun use in in a murder and the cops question you.

"Sir where is your gun registered to you"
"Officer i sold it to someone with a pink card"
"Ok son time to meet Bubba"

Sorry i really dont want to meet Bubba. Better safe than sorry, but to each his own.

There is no gun registration in this state...

 

[jeremy]

This would definitely be a deal breaker for me.

I do not mind showing my Drivers License or my LTCH. No copies are allowed of either, and yes I have had people ask for them in the past. I might do the receipt then, with no personal information.

I am not so much worried about the LEO tracking down of all the weapons out there. That is an asinine thought anyway, think of how many millions of weapons in the states were made before serial numbers were even required. My concern is what more what might or could be done with my information...


Indiana has NO Registration files! It is one of the reasons I like this state!

 

[MoparMan]

Is that what you tell the gun shops too, you will not fill out their bill of sale?
Cant that bill of sale at the gun shop that has the serial number still track you down when they find a casing your gun. Dont the manufactures keep a round from each gun so they can track it to the dealer who then in turn track it to the bill of sale. Maybe im stupid, please correct me.

 

[jeremy]

Is that what you tell the gun shops too, you will not fill out their bill of sale?
Cant that bill of sale at the gun shop that has the serial number still track you down when they find a casing your gun. Dont the manufactures keep a round from each gun so they can track it to the dealer who then in turn track it to the bill of sale. Maybe im stupid, please correct me.

Uhhh... Not quite the same thing. The forms could possibly be used for this. They are unfortunately a requirement for a business to use these forms. Not for private person.

Next let us think about the number of Firearms any given manufacturer builds in a year. Now let us think about the amount of space it would take to store that one round from each gun that same manufacturer has ever made. And how easy is it to just change your barrel. Now that round that is not required to be stored is useless.

 

[MoparMan]

Wasnt really sure how it worked.