The Best Way to Scare Off a Home Invader

[Liberty's Teeth]

That is the first thing you have said that I agree with totally.

I don't know why but I chuckled when I read this, do you mean the first thing in this thread of the first thing ever?

 

[TopDog]

I don't know why but I chuckled when I read this, do you mean the first thing in this thread of the first thing ever?

Sorry brother, I meant the first thing in this thread. You have made some interesting videos that I have enjoyed very much. I do not mean to insult you. Just that the whole scare off the bad guy thing really gets to me.

I live in a bad neighborhood and here my friend locks, alarms etc are only used to slow an intruder down long enough so you can grab a weapon. The crack heads, thugs, POS low life two legged crap that I see everyday has no fear of the police and little fear of death. I have witnessed this all first hand. Nope the majority of human filth that walks the streets here are not going to be scared off by some noise.

My neighbor across the street installed an alarm system which did nothing to stop break ins. So then he got a pit bull and left it in the house when he was away, the two legged trash simple broke a window and tried to kill the pit bull by throwing cider blocks at it. We finally put a stop to the break ins by telling the local crack heads when they made their rounds of begging for money that we no longer would call the police when the alarm went off. Instead he would call me (I am retired and thus home most of the time) and I would go to the house and deal with the problem. Break ins stopped. Nope a little noise from an alarm system or a car are not going to deter a true bad guy in the least. Might scare off a high school kid pranking but that is about it.

 

[gemihur]

I need TopDog as a neighbor!

 

[Liberty's Teeth]

Sorry brother, I meant the first thing in this thread. You have made some interesting videos that I have enjoyed very much. I do not mean to insult you. Just that the whole scare off the bad guy thing really gets to me.

I live in a bad neighborhood and here my friend locks, alarms etc are only used to slow an intruder down long enough so you can grab a weapon. The crack heads, thugs, POS low life two legged crap that I see everyday has no fear of the police and little fear of death. I have witnessed this all first hand. Nope the majority of human filth that walks the streets here are not going to be scared off by some noise.

My neighbor across the street installed an alarm system which did nothing to stop break ins. So then he got a pit bull and left it in the house when he was away, the two legged trash simple broke a window and tried to kill the pit bull by throwing cider blocks at it. We finally put a stop to the break ins by telling the local crack heads when they made their rounds of begging for money that we no longer would call the police when the alarm went off. Instead he would call me (I am retired and thus home most of the time) and I would go to the house and deal with the problem. Break ins stopped. Nope a little noise from an alarm system or a car are not going to deter a true bad guy in the least. Might scare off a high school kid pranking but that is about it.

I am putting a whole series together on home defense. You made reference to a core principle, "slow an intruder down long enough". A determined criminal will always achieve his goal, given enough time. When any security plan is put together you first have to design it around a base threat. That threat in your neighbor hood sounds like it is much more determined than in mine. The car alarm thing won't work for everyone, but it might work for most. It's all probabilities.

Beyond that it is all about deterring the threat if possible, detecting, delaying and finally responding

 

[CTC B4Z]

I dont want to scare anyone away. If they tried to invade my home they are leaving one of two ways, in a black bag or in cuffs...

 

[XDmShootr21]

If you don't have the decency to not break into my house, I don't have the decency to allow you to walk out without a few more holes than you came in with

 

[RobbyMaQ]

Wow. I guess I don't think it's a bad idea. How much time could it possibly take to grab my keys off my nightstand and hit the panic button (while on the way to picking up my firearm). If for nothing else, than to alert the rest of my family.
Buying time? I suppose that's subjective, but to me, worth the risk.
While proving that 'you shouldn't break into my house' is all well and good, having a would be intruder leave before any fire was exchanged, is more important to me than risking family getting injured. I wouldn't be able to justify any injury to my family as passable because my ego was intact.
I view it as another tool to aid in removing a threat.

 

[88GT]

Wow. I guess I don't think it's a bad idea. How much time could it possibly take to grab my keys off my nightstand and hit the panic button (while on the way to picking up my firearm). If for nothing else, than to alert the rest of my family.
Buying time? I suppose that's subjective, but to me, worth the risk.
While proving that 'you shouldn't break into my house' is all well and good, having a would be intruder leave before any fire was exchanged, is more important to me than risking family getting injured. I wouldn't be able to justify any injury to my family as passable because my ego was intact.
I view it as another tool to aid in removing a threat.

Are you implying that a zero tolerance policy towards bastards that invade my home and steal my **** is putting my family at risk and based solely on my need to feed an ego?

 

[Liberty's Teeth]

Wow. I guess I don't think it's a bad idea. How much time could it possibly take to grab my keys off my nightstand and hit the panic button (while on the way to picking up my firearm). If for nothing else, than to alert the rest of my family.
Buying time? I suppose that's subjective, but to me, worth the risk.
While proving that 'you shouldn't break into my house' is all well and good, having a would be intruder leave before any fire was exchanged, is more important to me than risking family getting injured. I wouldn't be able to justify any injury to my family as passable because my ego was intact.
I view it as another tool to aid in removing a threat.

Good point. I just made this one to answer all of the folks who will stop at nothing to shoot someone who breaks into their home:




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[jbombelli]

Just throw up on yourself. He'll run away for sure.

 

[Jack Burton]

Are you implying that a zero tolerance policy towards bastards that invade my home and steal my **** is putting my family at risk and based solely on my need to feed an ego?

If someone is unwilling to consider any other method of solving the problem other than getting into a shooting match with the intruder, then yes, I would.

No one method is perfect... but to dismiss all methods and state that the only option is to shoot someone is silly on it's face. And it's ego speaking... not a tactical mindset.

If you've been misunderstood and that is not quite what you are advocating then you might want to clarify yourself. Because that is just what it sounds like. Sometimes we don't always communicate well in a quick moment of writing a post so if we are just not getting what you are attempting to say that is quite understandable.

 

[beararms1776]

I am not against using force on an intruder in the least. Even in Indiana if you do so you will be at the mercy of the law. Trust me, the best way to end any confrontation like this is not to get in it in the first place.

Remember, the invader came to you. There wouldn't be any trouble if they weren't looking for it.
At the same time with what I said, if there were a chance the intruder was unarmed, I would give em the option to leave.

 

[Caleb]

Remember, the invader came to you. There wouldn't be any trouble if they weren't looking for it.
At the same time with what I said, if there were a chance the intruder was unarmed, I would give em the option to leave.

Leave? Hell no! Your face on the floor pal with your fingers interlocked behind your head!

 

[1775usmarine]

I like putting up trip wires connected to flares along the outer perimeter. The inner perimeter I like to have rigged with claymores about every 50 feet apart for intersecting fields of fire. Lastly if they make it to the house I like to tie bells to the door handles. If they get past the bells they can deal with the Pomeranian. If SHTF then they get the business end of a 4506 or the wife's 9mm PX4.

 

[RobbyMaQ]

If someone is unwilling to consider any other method of solving the problem other than getting into a shooting match with the intruder, then yes, I would.

No one method is perfect... but to dismiss all methods and state that the only option is to shoot someone is silly on it's face. And it's ego speaking... not a tactical mindset.

If you've been misunderstood and that is not quite what you are advocating then you might want to clarify yourself. Because that is just what it sounds like. Sometimes we don't always communicate well in a quick moment of writing a post so if we are just not getting what you are attempting to say that is quite understandable.

^^ This
Because many of the responses I see here don't even consider an alternative. It is an obtuse viewpoint to not even consider an alternative.

 

[IndyBeerman]

If an intruder is willing to ignore my dog barking @ him in my house, he's not going to be worrying about a car horn blaring. They already know just about how much time they have to do the deed they want to.

If he gets far enough into my house to set off the 300 watt strobe pointed down my hallway attached to a motion sensor, he'll never know what hit him as he's falling to the floor in a crumpled heap.

 

[RobbyMaQ]

If an intruder is willing to ignore my dog barking @ him in my house, he's not going to be worrying about a car horn blaring. They already know just about how much time they have to do the deed they want to.

If he gets far enough into my house to set off the 300 watt strobe pointed down my hallway attached to a motion sensor, he'll never know what hit him as he's falling to the floor in a crumpled heap.

I think you're not supposed to use precautions such as a barking dog, or motion detector strobelight, or any other warning method you wussy! Just shoot the bastards! Especially if you can't have pets, or don't have a security motion detection system.

 

[Kirk Freeman]

Getting a home invader to leave without a confrontation is probably best.

Just turn on the outside lights and leave them on that way you will not have a "home invader".

 

[TopDog]

I really hope that everyone here has the mindset that the last thing they WANT to do is kill another person. But at the same time you have to have the mindset that you will not hesitate to do so.

Layered security. My first line of defense is my dog, then the outside lights and locks, then the alarm system, then the presentation (the dog is also part of the presentation). All of this is so that if some POS is willing to invade my home when I am present, said POS is delayed long enough for me to put gun in hand and prepare.

The video considering a upward angle of aim by kneeling is interesting. I have actually thought of that before. But with age and knees already in bad shape not a viable option for me.

 

[Liberty's Teeth]

I really hope that everyone here has the mindset that the last thing they WANT to do is kill another person. But at the same time you have to have the mindset that you will not hesitate to do so.

Layered security. My first line of defense is my dog, then the outside lights and locks, then the alarm system, then the presentation (the dog is also part of the presentation). All of this is so that if some POS is willing to invade my home when I am present, said POS is delayed long enough for me to put gun in hand and prepare.

The video considering a upward angle of aim by kneeling is interesting. I have actually thought of that before. But with age and knees already in bad shape not a viable option for me.

Very good post. Unfortunately most folks don't understand layered security. Ultimately layered security is the way to go. If folks would put the thought necessary into securing their property an aggressor wouldn't even consider them as a target. They would move on to an easier target. Force multipliers do work. Like I said, my next series is going to focus on helping people think through their security plan.