Where to start with a home business gun store?

[bwframe]

Take a good look into how that sweet-assed mayor of Indy "made his name," to position himself for that seat...

 

[Jodyrocks96]

Take a good look into how that sweet-assed mayor of Indy "made his name," to position himself for that seat...

Any link? I would love to read up on it.

 

[bwframe]

Any link? I would love to read up on it.

joe hogsett states attorney gun control - Google Search

www.google.com

 

[MCgrease08]

I am also not here to become rich. I want to become enriched in the culture and gain as much wisdom as possible.

Getting into a business with the goal of gaining wisdom sounds like a recipe for going broke. Just ask anyone that says, "I hang out at bars a lot. I'd like to open my own."

But you're here asking questions and it seems like you plan to do the research, so that's a good start.

 

[Jodyrocks96]

Getting into a business with the goal of gaining wisdom sounds like a recipe for going broke. Just ask anyone that says, "I hang out at bars a lot. I'd like to open my own."

But you're here asking questions and it seems like you plan to do the research, so that's a good start.

Bars and guns are two different poisons. Imo guns are an investment. To start a bar you need a large amount of capital or a personal loan. For a small online firearm store I will hopefully be able to upstart with a basic credit card and my personal credit as a backer. I definitely don't won't to go broke over it though.

 

[DoggyDaddy]

Ultimately you're going to have to go through the BATFE to apply for your license. Have you looked into the requirements for an FFL 01 yet?

Types of Federal Firearms Licenses (FFLs) | Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives

Types of Federal Firearms Licensees (FFLs): What is an FFL? An individual who is licensed to engage in the business of manufacturing, importing and/or dealing in firearms. Persons must be licensed by ATF to engage in the business of firearms. Types of FFLs: Dealers: 01 – Dealer in firearms other...

www.atf.gov

 

[Jodyrocks96]

Ultimately you're going to have to go through the BATFE to apply for your license. Have you looked into the requirements for an FFL 01 yet?

Types of Federal Firearms Licenses (FFLs) | Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives

Types of Federal Firearms Licensees (FFLs): What is an FFL? An individual who is licensed to engage in the business of manufacturing, importing and/or dealing in firearms. Persons must be licensed by ATF to engage in the business of firearms. Types of FFLs: Dealers: 01 – Dealer in firearms other...

www.atf.gov

I did about two years ago. I did a lot of research and ultimately determined that my zoning and county wouldn't allow it previously. I will spend a lot of time invested into understanding the requirements. I believe the best information I will get is from current FFL holders in a home based setting.

 

[chubbs]

The ATF requires you to be in business with the intention of making money, this is one of the big questions they will ask. FFL's won't be issued for a hobby or to buy cheap guns for personal collection(which don't exist).

I had a home based FFL for 6 years. Parts of it were great. Turned a profit every year while being one of the lowest priced in my area. But after moving, I've yet to get back into it. If I do, it won't be at home. I was open by appointment only, $15 transfers. 90% of my customers were awesome. The other 10% made me decide that home based sucked. My shop was located on the same 5 acres as my house, but in a separate 24x30 building. Weirdos find your info online and then randomly show up at all hours to see what you have in stock. More than one was told to get the **** of my land. Others would have something transfered and then show up at my back door the second they got the ups delivery notification. Just because someone signed for it doesn't mean I'm home or open. But there is lots of good parts too. If I ever go back to it, it will be off my property and I won't do transfers unless I know you well. It's a magnet for odd balls and I'm not home to defend the herd 24/7.

 

[DadSmith]

 

[TJ Kackowski]

I think the OP has already started his home business ... at least 3 listings in the classies since last night.

 

[Mongo59]

A little ATF history.

Back in the 30's they had the NFA. There was no prescribed way to 'decommission' guns like the Thompson or Tommy gun. Usually you would go to the police department and they would do whatever they deemed necessary. Some police departments would simply put a piece of wooden dowel rod in the chamber with a wink and others would weld the whole bore shut.

Last year one of my LGS got in a Thompson M1A1 WWII versions that fired from an open bolt with a fixed firing pin mounted to the bolt. No way to make semi-auto. The receiver had a section cut out of it that was since replaced with Bondo for visual reasons only. All internals were intact and it had an original Thompson made by Colt 20 round magazine.

The ATF swooped in and gutted it, hammered blocks of wood into the receiver and made it into a totally inert object with a magazine that won't even come out. Good some will say, it wasn't a papered relic. Fine, let us say this was totally in the 'right'. But why then did the ATF return it with a generic aftermarket 30 round mag instead of the highly sought after original Colt manufactured one? The original batch was the only 20 round mags made and when the gov got involved they went to 30 rounds.

So, if you just got butt rashed by the ATF with their wide spreading omnipotent power, would you ask about the magazine much less all the internals which are legal to own?

 

[KG1]

I agree. This is just your opinion. Thanks!

So you haven't contacted jeephammer yet?

I like long walks in the park.








Pants optional.

With your gun in your hand at low ready.

 

[printcraft]

I think the OP has already started his home business ... at least 3 listings in the classies since last night.

He needs to take the parts out of the bag and lay them out for a photo at least...

 

[manifest destiny]

The ATF swooped in and gutted it, hammered blocks of wood into the receiver and made it into a totally inert object with a magazine that won't even come out. Good some will say, it wasn't a papered relic. Fine, let us say this was totally in the 'right'. But why then did the ATF return it with a generic aftermarket 30 round mag instead of the highly sought after original Colt manufactured one? The original batch was the only 20 round mags made and when the gov got involved they went to 30 rounds.

So, if you just got butt rashed by the ATF with their wide spreading omnipotent power, would you ask about the magazine much less all the internals which are legal to own?

Damski! It's not enough that they have that authority. It's that they seemingly enjoy sticking their authority in, sans lube. Crooks.

 

[churchmouse]

The ATF requires you to be in business with the intention of making money, this is one of the big questions they will ask. FFL's won't be issued for a hobby or to buy cheap guns for personal collection(which don't exist).

I had a home based FFL for 6 years. Parts of it were great. Turned a profit every year while being one of the lowest priced in my area. But after moving, I've yet to get back into it. If I do, it won't be at home. I was open by appointment only, $15 transfers. 90% of my customers were awesome. The other 10% made me decide that home based sucked. My shop was located on the same 5 acres as my house, but in a separate 24x30 building. Weirdos find your info online and then randomly show up at all hours to see what you have in stock. More than one was told to get the **** of my land. Others would have something transfered and then show up at my back door the second they got the ups delivery notification. Just because someone signed for it doesn't mean I'm home or open. But there is lots of good parts too. If I ever go back to it, it will be off my property and I won't do transfers unless I know you well. It's a magnet for odd balls and I'm not home to defend the herd 24/7.

And this is why it's a bit of a push to do this from your home. There are security questions that will come up. Not everyone will follow the by appointment only rule regardless. People are a strange lot. That 10% is often enough to drive you nuts. And 2 % of the 10 are flat freacking crazy.

 

[churchmouse]

And this is why it's a bit of a push to do this from your home. There are security questions that will come up. Not everyone will follow the by appointment only rule regardless. People are a strange lot. That 10% is often enough to drive you nuts. And 2 % of the 10 are flat freacking crazy.

Not the same line of business but I had my shop at my house for years. Performance based work. Hot rod engines mainly for street/drag cars and Harley Davidsons. And metric bikes. Myself and my neighbor did this part time, but I swear we put as many hours in the shop as we did at work. This brought out some interesting people. Especially the bike group. More than a few were just not right thinking and had to be removed from the shop. 1 on multiple occasions and he finally understood the meaning of pain.
And lord the beer drinkers. Thats another story.
As was mentioned 90% + customers are great. Some become friends. It's that small percentage of the head count that give you pause.

 

[TJ Kackowski]

He needs to take the parts out of the bag and lay them out for a photo at least...

I sent him that very suggestion in a conversation earlier this morning. Nobody I know wants to buy a pig in a poke.

 

[printcraft]

And this is why it's a bit of a push to do this from your home. There are security questions that will come up. Not everyone will follow the by appointment only rule regardless. People are a strange lot. That 10% is often enough to drive you nuts. And 2 % of the 10 are flat freacking crazy.

That seems low...

 

[HHollow]

Google may be to blame for the random nutjob person wanting to see your home store.

When I am in a new area with extra time I often ask google where the guns stores are. I have a feeling Mr Google just dumps out the addresses of anyone with an FFL. many of the "gunstores" I am shown are private homes, farms, and unrelated businesses. Of course I do not bother these folk.

 

[DadSmith]

Good people, and nice gun shop.