So is the .22 short....45 acp is backed by history
So is the .22 short....45 acp is backed by history
Even with trick bullets, the 9mm is way down on the list.
He also say words are like bullets, you can not put them back in your mouth once they leave........................but you can edit posts to add punctuation afterwards!Confucius say, "Paragraph without punctuation like gun without bullets. Make no sense."
Ow! my eyes hurt from trying to read that!
The Nazis loved 9mm and killed Millions with it, hard to argue with that.
Shot placement is relative to what you are using.I don't understand why people even argue over this... It is as much pointless banter as Glock vs XD or Mossberg 500 vs Remington 870. In the end, the ONLY THING THAT MATTERS IS SHOT PLACEMENT! The only fact is that a well placed shot with a 22 is better than a miss with a bigger caliber. Haven't you seen/read about people killing bears with pellet rifles?
LOL!!!Confucius say, "Paragraph without punctuation like gun without bullets. Make no sense."
Ow! my eyes hurt from trying to read that!
Shot placement is relative to what you are using.
A .22 for example has a very small window of damage.
However, a 155 has several meters to play with for shot placement...
Is that extra 2/10 inch of expansion or 1" in penetration worth it if I could put three additional rounds on target in he same amout of time?
cjacobs said:How about relability of the weapons platform?
cjacobs said:Availability of ammunition?
cjacobs said:Cost?
cjacobs said:Faster follow up shots?
cjacobs said:These are not the latest Fads. I've researched this exhaustively too....
cjacobs said:Op, start here, excellent read authored by the FBI, handgun wounding factors and effectivenss. Although dated, still quite relevent information: http://www.firearmstactical.com/pdf/fbi-hwfe.pdf
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Your first link is a good one and supports my points perfectly.
Your second one is questionable because it starts with the tired old picture of unknown origin and performed under unknown conditions.
Wow. Ok I give. You appearantly know vastly more than I can even acquire about termial ballistics and effectiveness. Sorry to have wasted your time.
And for whats its worth, the image in the second reference was taken by a gentleman by the name of Doug Carr. The topic author is Dr. Gary Roberts who happens to be a recognized expert in the field of wound trama and ballistics. Surely some one of your stature who has researched the topic exaustively would have at least heard of the IWBA, Dr. Martin Fackler, Dr Gary Roberts and SSA Hall.
This. Unless you have a Glock, I heard they eat EVERYTHINGThe best ammo is the one that fits your gun.
If your 9mm pistol is empty and you find a box of .45 ACP that's not gonna help.