Tons of violence in broadripple causes an "occupy" with guns response.

[Chefcook]

While I agree with you that those depicted in those photos are not who I want to associate with...they are not of the promoter of this event.

Unfortunately...this is the promoter of the event. I find it disturbing...to say the least.

If you look through the album this guy is in there...

 

[Zoub]

If you look through the album this guy is in there...

What do you mean "in there" it is HIS ALBUM. One of many.

Der Ecips Gnaw's Photos | Facebook

They probably staged the muggings to further their own agenda. Similar technique described in second mugging.

http://www.facebook.com/media/album...615734783.4854.100000935356609&type=3&theater

 

[maxmayhem]

i can read the headline

Conceal carrying antisemite shoots drunken student while escorting drunken bar patrons in the quiet broadripple area

If you look through the album this guy is in there...

 

[maxmayhem]

nazi?

I dont think this guy is saying heil hitler but ooooooooooo and 16 referring to the colts dismal season but i could be wrong and i will defer to your higher post count

If you look through the album this guy is in there...

 

[Chefcook]

What do you mean "in there" it is HIS ALBUM. One of many.

Der Ecips Gnaw's Photos | Facebook

They probably staged the muggings to further their own agenda. Similar technique described in second mugging.

http://www.facebook.com/media/albums/?id=100000935356609#!/photo.php?fbid=109730729068105&set=a.109730615734783.4854.100000935356609&type=3&theater

I just followed the link and looked at the pics... Regardless the last thing the gun community needs is to be associated with idiots like this...

 

[Zoub]

Conceal carrying antisemite shoots drunken student while escorting drunken bar patrons in the quiet broadripple area

What is it with you and post count? If a man comes in here and makes one post but he is known and trusted, fine. Clearly, people got played in here, but if you want to associate with this kind of trash fine, but yeah time, posts and interaction in real life matter. To me, you don't matter, you are just an avatar. What you think has no bearing on my opinions.


In real life, I had family in concentration camps, I apologize but I won't march with Nazis or Nazi worshipers. Look through those albums.

 

[occupybr]

Man, you guys have been active today. Im a photographer, marketer, and strategist. Many of these pictures are not taken by me but borrowed. I really think you guys need to learn to not make wild assumptions and rather ask questions when confronted with images such as these.

I am 3/4 jewish and just returned from Israel to visit my grandparents, so im not sure the nazi thing holds much water. As far as the racist thing goes, my girlfriend is african american. Your allegations and jumping to conclusions based on photographs that are a mixture of work, play, and pictures that arent mine that friends posted are nothing short of ridiculous. I understand that they might look bad, but im not hiding anything, because I dont really care. I will say this for the 50th time in this 33 page ordeal, I'm not perfect.

People do crazy things for cameras. I have told you guys that if you want a perfect spokesman, then track down Charlton Heston, until then, I will continue to take the brunt of all the amateur investigative journalists that think they are somehow 'digging deep' by clicking on my name on facebook. Im one of 150 volunteers, while I may be the most interesting to you guys and you can look at pictures of others and make sweeping inferences as to what is running through my head, I would contest that you are wrong. I dont know what else to say, support of OBR is not an endorsement of me, rather its is support of the event, nothing more, nothing less.

 

[ThrottleJockey]

I was just thinking, dangerous I know....trying to remember this lesson from nazi history......if I recall correctly......didn't they (the nazis) insist on everyone owning a gun? OH....WAIT....the nazis BANNED and collected all guns after requiring registration...yeah, I'm not seeing the connection to the whole nazi thing. try again guys.

 

[dom1104]

I only have one thing to contribute.

Open Carry Events remind me of this guy.

 

[Yup!]

Man, you guys have been active today. Im a photographer, marketer, and strategist. Many of these pictures are not taken by me but borrowed. I really think you guys need to learn to not make wild assumptions and rather ask questions when confronted with images such as these.

I am 3/4 jewish and just returned from Israel to visit my grandparents, so im not sure the nazi thing holds much water. As far as the racist thing goes, my girlfriend is african american. Your allegations and jumping to conclusions based on photographs that are a mixture of work, play, and pictures that arent mine that friends posted are nothing short of ridiculous. I understand that they might look bad, but im not hiding anything, because I dont really care. I will say this for the 50th time in this 33 page ordeal, I'm not perfect.

People do crazy things for cameras. I have told you guys that if you want a perfect spokesman, then track down Charlton Heston, until then, I will continue to take the brunt of all the amateur investigative journalists that think they are somehow 'digging deep' by clicking on my name on facebook. Im one of 150 volunteers, while I may be the most interesting to you guys and you can look at pictures of others and make sweeping inferences as to what is running through my head, I would contest that you are wrong. I dont know what else to say, support of OBR is not an endorsement of me, rather its is support of the event, nothing more, nothing less.

Thanks for your response. This post will help me articulate my position even better.

I'm willing to give you the benefit of the doubt. I'll concede that you are NOT an illegal drug user. I'll even concede that you are not a racist as posted by others. I'll honor your title of Photographer, Marketer and Strategist. I'll place you in the "not perfect, but all around a good guy" category. I'll agree to your point that the photos are not yours, however they are friends of yours. I'm willing to acknowledge all that.

I'll even admit the idea of educating patrons about their rights is a great idea.

Now - with all that said. You've taken some bad pr here as a result of the company you keep. You now are coming here to defend yourself. There are at least 4 threads on this board alone you have to do damage control on. There are two comment sections on local news channels websites you have to damage control on. Who knows where else on the internet people have labeled you incorrectly.

I dont have time to defend myself like you are having to do, so I choose to distance myself from you, before any association can be made. My personal life will not be compromised because of false accusations. You will have a hard time recovering from this, some will never see your response as they have already made their opinions of you and have moved on. You will NEVER be able to undo ALL the bad PR. It's impossible.

I will not be at the event, but wish you the best of luck. Be Safe!

 

[Zoub]

Your allegations and jumping to conclusions based on photographs that are a mixture of work, play, and pictures that arent mine that friends posted are nothing short of ridiculous.

I understand that they might look bad, but im not hiding anything, because I dont really care.

People do crazy things for cameras. I have told you guys that if you want a perfect spokesman, then track down Charlton Heston.

think they are somehow 'digging deep' by clicking on my name on facebook.

Im one of 150 volunteers, while I may be the most interesting to you guys and you can look at pictures of others and make sweeping inferences as to what is running through my head,

I would contest that you are wrong. I dont know what else to say, support of OBR is not an endorsement of me, rather its is support of the event, nothing more, nothing less.

You are either very nieve, a liar or a person with an agenda.

No one dug deep, no one dug at all, it took all of 30 seconds to find the first cut. This does not even come close to investigating or vetting you. Why even go that far? Would it get any better? Why dig deeper into a pile of sh** once it starts to stink.

You control the message that forms your persona. No one went looking for you, you went looking for support. What you see is the first level of discussion about what people found in deciding if you and your event are worth supporting. It is not about the 2A, it is about you.

You are one of 150, and birds of a feather. None of my friends post that kind of stuff in their albums or in mine and some are no saints.

I doubt much of anything you post here to be the truth, but that is my opinion. There are no reasons given to trust your judgement, but many observed that show very poor judgement.

Free speech cuts both ways. You should appreciate the fact the thread has gone 30+ pages. You were given an honest chance to win support. Did you take full advantage of that chance or did you just fall back on "I am not perfect, I don't care."

 

[g00n24]

Man, you guys have been active today. Im a photographer, marketer, and strategist. Many of these pictures are not taken by me but borrowed. I really think you guys need to learn to not make wild assumptions and rather ask questions when confronted with images such as these.

I am 3/4 jewish and just returned from Israel to visit my grandparents, so im not sure the nazi thing holds much water. As far as the racist thing goes, my girlfriend is african american. Your allegations and jumping to conclusions based on photographs that are a mixture of work, play, and pictures that arent mine that friends posted are nothing short of ridiculous. I understand that they might look bad, but im not hiding anything, because I dont really care. I will say this for the 50th time in this 33 page ordeal, I'm not perfect.

People do crazy things for cameras. I have told you guys that if you want a perfect spokesman, then track down Charlton Heston, until then, I will continue to take the brunt of all the amateur investigative journalists that think they are somehow 'digging deep' by clicking on my name on facebook. Im one of 150 volunteers, while I may be the most interesting to you guys and you can look at pictures of others and make sweeping inferences as to what is running through my head, I would contest that you are wrong. I dont know what else to say, support of OBR is not an endorsement of me, rather its is support of the event, nothing more, nothing less.

Oh yes how did some of us come to the wild assumption that you are a racist/neo-nazi. I dont know, perhaps the racist/neo-nazi images of YOU and your friends that you make PUBLIC on facebook. Boy that's smart, especially when you want people to take you seriously and especially when you want to be the face of gun owners. Do us all a favor and **** off.

 

[Zoub]

Do us all a favor and **** off.

I read this with an English accent. That is the one thing the internet lacks, flavor. The English accent makes that phrase perfect.

 

[occupybr]

There is a plethora of cannon fodder. Nothing I'm ashamed of. The people that know me are staunch supporters and are in a better position to get the context of my sense of humor. The pr, I'm not too concerned about, the only reason I do the damage control is because I love to argue on forums.

Despite everyone's reasons for being convinced I'm stupid, I have a lot of very smart people that are just as involved as I am with this project and we are engineering and coordinating this event to be a major win for everyone involved. the name of our event has been mentioned over 500,000 times on the internet. That itself is a success. Even with this buffoon at the helm. People say that I detract from it, i say, there would be nothing to detract from if I hadnt believed in this issue and brought it as far as it has by marketing a brand of bold and unconventional public awareness event. This is something from nothing. When this event goes off without a hitch i believe we will have truly built something, if nothing else, in hearts and minds.

 

[occupybr]

Im glad you call yourself goon, it saves me the trouble.

 

[occupybr]

Dave Chapelle (sp?) has video of him out there dressed as a klansman! please expose him next after you expose a jewish american as a WW2 german soldier.

 

[public servant]

There is a plethora of cannon fodder. Nothing I'm ashamed of.

I would like for you to do me a favor. Please ask your Jewish grandparents in Israel what they think of those photos.

My guess is your grandparents would be around 70 years old. I think they might have a different feeling about those photos.

 

[bobzilla]

To tell ya truth I expected the courtesy of an response. How old are you, How long have you handled and used firearms and How long have you had your LTCH ??? Dodger!

Has this ever been addressed?

 

[occupybr]

They are on my facebook, and Im sure they have seen them. Making fun of Nazis by parody is something, I imagine, would amuse them.

 

[occupybr]

Has this ever been addressed?

nope