The Socialist Revolution Is Upon Us, Can We Stop It?

[BugI02]

The rich elites, though pure arrogance, believe they will just miraculously be in the protected class. Useful idiots indeed....

Tell them to contemplate Jack Ma. Nothing is ever secure in a country with no rule of law except the emperor's decree

 

[erasure]

There`s peace in the forgiveness...

Forgiveness is contigent on contrition and change.

 

[gregr]

Forgiveness is contigent on contrition and change.

Not in the least.

 

[Leadeye]

When I see all of this "socialist" mess in this country I've come to believe that these people in the streets are more than anything unhappy with themselves and want to give somebody a butt whoopin because of it. Why I can't explain. The problem is that you can't just beat on people and burn buildings because you are angry, it's not legal, or moral. They don't consider that maybe if they applied themselves to correcting their own problems they might feel better.

I think the idea got started that they should find some group that's considered bad by society in general and beating on them would be OK. Maybe this is where ANTIFA starts and the "punch a Nazi" slogan, trouble is there aren't a lot of Nazis around so they are hard to find, let alone getting yourself filmed beating them.

Now they've moved on to "racism" a broadly used term, and growing wider every day, that can be used to paint a great many individuals and organizations. The term has no moral defense so maybe it's morally OK now to "punch a racist".

Where does it stop? How much violence is required before these people feel better about themselves? What is the next " morally reprehensible" group or organization to seek out for a beating?

I remember last year telling my wife that I thought most of these people looked like LARPers from Comic-Con and that sadly someone would end up getting killed before they realized what they were doing was for real and went home. Today I wonder how much blood it's really going to take, 20, 100, 1000?

 

[NKBJ]

Oh golly, if only JEB had gotten the nomination!

 

[Tombs]

What if those solutions don't offer free **** but instead are based on opportunity and hard work, more like WPA than free college and UBI?

I fail to see how anyone at all serious can look upon communism as a true solution to their problems. Seems more like they hope to build a better, undeserved position from the wreckage of what once was

People are going to look to the ones offering a solution. It doesn't matter if it's a good solution, just that they acknowledge a problem exists and sell a solution.

 

[BugI02]

When I see all of this "socialist" mess in this country I've come to believe that these people in the streets are more than anything unhappy with themselves and want to give somebody a butt whoopin because of it. Why I can't explain. The problem is that you can't just beat on people and burn buildings because you are angry, it's not legal, or moral. They don't consider that maybe if they applied themselves to correcting their own problems they might feel better.

I think the idea got started that they should find some group that's considered bad by society in general and beating on them would be OK. Maybe this is where ANTIFA starts and the "punch a Nazi" slogan, trouble is there aren't a lot of Nazis around so they are hard to find, let alone getting yourself filmed beating them.

Now they've moved on to "racism" a broadly used term, and growing wider every day, that can be used to paint a great many individuals and organizations. The term has no moral defense so maybe it's morally OK now to "punch a racist".

Where does it stop? How much violence is required before these people feel better about themselves? What is the next " morally reprehensible" group or organization to seek out for a beating?

I remember last year telling my wife that I thought most of these people looked like LARPers from Comic-Con and that sadly someone would end up getting killed before they realized what they were doing was for real and went home. Today I wonder how much blood it's really going to take, 20, 100, 1000?

Yeah, and the follow up question, did the skateboard guy Kyle shot look happier about himself when he was shot through and through

I also wonder about the theory that 'certain groups' are angry with asians because they succeed in conditions where those groups fail, and I read in other threads about how millennials flirt with the idea of communism because according to them the system just isn't 'fair'

I'm left to conclude that too many people don't see a path out of their problems and elect to take it out on others rather than placing the blame on themselves, where it belongs. They also seem overwhelmed by multiple problems and unable to perform 'triage' and solve the problems that can be solved immediately first

 

[BugI02]

Oh golly, if only JEB had gotten the nomination!

 

[BugI02]

People are going to look to the ones offering a solution. It doesn't matter if it's a good solution, just that they acknowledge a problem exists and sell a solution.

So, buy cryptocoin on Robinhood in preference to develop a plan and work towards a better job. I just get the feeling a major part of the problem is those 'ones' want everything fixed NOW. That's not how any of this works

 

[IndyDave1776]

People are going to look to the ones offering a solution. It doesn't matter if it's a good solution, just that they acknowledge a problem exists and sell a solution.

I would say they are looking for easy solutions, reality notwithstanding. Had they been willing to accept real solutions, they would have supported Trump.

 

[Ingomike]

So would these steps make a difference? Many here, including myself lament the RINO republicans but were you aware that open primaries allow the left to have an impact on the candidates conservatives have to vote for? That would have the affect of diluting the conservative nature of the party by drawing it leftward with RINO candidates...

"Close the Republican Primaries Immediately"​

"This should be a no-brainer, but no one is talking about it. Only five U.S. states have truly closed Republican primaries. This means that in most states Democrats and independents (even communists) can vote in Republican primaries—and they do. All over the country, the GOP’s enemies vote in Republican primaries to pick the weakest, most wimpy candidate they can.

That’s why the Republican base is super patriotic but most of their elected representatives in most states vote like “progressive” Democrats.

Close the primaries, Republican patriots. It will transform your party."

A New Zealander’s 9 ‘Starter Steps’ to Save America From Socialism

www.theepochtimes.com

 

[GIJEW]

Yeah, and the follow up question, did the skateboard guy Kyle shot look happier about himself when he was shot through and through

I also wonder about the theory that 'certain groups' are angry with asians because they succeed in conditions where those groups fail, and I read in other threads about how millennials flirt with the idea of communism because according to them the system just isn't 'fair'

I'm left to conclude that too many people don't see a path out of their problems and elect to take it out on others rather than placing the blame on themselves, where it belongs. They also seem overwhelmed by multiple problems and unable to perform 'triage' and solve the problems that can be solved immediately first

No surprise at all. Instead of being taught critical thinking, resiliance, and personal responsibility, they've been indoctrinated to believe that
1)victim-hood is a status symbol that confers moral superiority
2)fairness is defined by outcomes not opportunity
3)good or evil is defined by one's identity, not their character

That's the short list. We're dealing with amoral, infantile, idiots, who claim to be victimized and therefore morally superior and entitled to whatever they want--right now

 

[larcat]

I wasn’t around in the 60s and early 70s. To the old cats who were, worse now or then?

Last summer was bad, but the late 60s/early 70s were in fact worse.

Days of Rage

“People have completely forgotten that in 1972 we had over nineteen hundred domestic bombings in the United States.” — Max Noel, FBI (ret.) Recently, I had my head torn off by a b…

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[larcat]

Last summer was bad, but the late 60s/early 70s were in fact worse.

Days of Rage

“People have completely forgotten that in 1972 we had over nineteen hundred domestic bombings in the United States.” — Max Noel, FBI (ret.) Recently, I had my head torn off by a b…

status451.com

I'd also mention the triple assassinations of Kennedy/Kennedy/King. That's political violence that could have easily triggered complete sociopolitical meltdown.

GiVen the context of covid supply chain disruptions and panic buying, I thought last summer would get way worse. In the grand scheme though, I don't even know if it was as bad as, say, the LA riots.

Again, I think it was really bad and there are cultural parts of it that are scary. The videos of mobs harassing and attacking individuals homes for having Trump flags being the worst IMHO, and the unwillingness of civic leaders to clamp down on mob actions like happened with Lightfoot and the raising of the bridges were bad. I've got friends and family that live and work in neighborhoods that violence got pushed out into. I just think we were closer to actual civil war from 65-72 or whatever.

 

[BugI02]

This is a thought-provoking read, from one who quite possibly knows wherefrom she speaks

Tribalism has come to the West

Hostile and polarised, today's America reminds me of my Somalian clan

unherd.com

 

[DadSmith]

This is a thought-provoking read, from one who quite possibly knows wherefrom she speaks

Tribalism has come to the West

Hostile and polarised, today's America reminds me of my Somalian clan

unherd.com

Hostile and polarized was also what brought about the Civil War.

 

[AtTheMurph]

The caveat, is that the possibility of mirroring Western Europe based socialist practice is a legitimate thought. That I could see happening within my lifetime.

Western Europe's socialist practices are unsustainable, just as are the USA's.

Those things that are unsustainable will not be sustained. So the question is, will they be dismantled voluntarily or will they be dismantled through destruction.

I'm pretty sure that anyone with a sense of history knows the answer.

 

[jamil]

I wasn’t around in the 60s and early 70s. To the old cats who were, worse now or then?

Just seeing this thread. I grew up in the 60's/70's. Worse now. At least we don't have a half dozen far left groups bombing buildings randomly. But tallying up the damage from last summer's mostly peaceful protests, any given year of violence then is nowhere near the destruction across the country as now.

The biggest difference I see isn't in how radical they were then compared to now. It's that there are orders of magnitude more people taking part, are better organized, are way better funded, and all the major institutions are supportive. Education and entertainment were the only American institutions who supported back then. And then it was limited to the humanities educators in universities, and a smaller subset of Hollywood. Prosecutors did not refuse to prosecute the perpetrators.

 

[jamil]

No. I am trying to gauge the actions of the left then, vs now, to find out if the perception of it by those who didn’t hold a favorable of those protests. Did they view as less a threat as compared to now, the same, or more critical? The question is relevant is it not?

Sure, it's a relevant question. Frankly we were more worried about USSR nuking us. I'd say that then versus now, there are a lot more people who viewed their actions critically as now. BLM can riot and loot kill people, and much of America still cheers them on. It wasn't like that at all back then.

 

[indykid]

We don't have to worry about nukes falling when cyber attacks can shut down the fuel supply. Wait until they shut down the power grid.

Reminds me of the Nixon oil shortage which generated gas lines.

Just gas up when you normally would and there wouldn't be lines.