The Reality of Red-State Fascism

[ATF Consumer]

[FONT=Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif][FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]The Reality of Red-State Fascism[/FONT][/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]by Llewellyn H. Rockwell, Jr.[/FONT]​

[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]Year's end is the time for big thoughts, so here are mine. The most significant socio-political shift in our time has gone almost completely unremarked, and even unnoticed. It is the dramatic shift of the red-state bourgeoisie from leave-us-alone libertarianism, manifested in the Congressional elections of 1994, to almost totalitarian statist nationalism. Whereas the conservative middle class once cheered the circumscribing of the federal government, it now celebrates power and adores the central state, particularly its military wing. [/FONT]​

Read the entire article...
The Reality of Red-State Fascism by Llewellyn H. Rockwell, Jr.​

 

[Dryden]

When the eldery in this country voted for the party that will eventually cut off their medical benefits, it was the last sign that our system has been subverted.

 

[SirRealism]

[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]No, today, the clear and present danger to freedom comes from the right side of the ideological spectrum, those people who are pleased to preserve most of free enterprise but favor top-down management of society, culture, family, and school, and seek to use a messianic and belligerent nationalism to impose their vision of politics on the world.

[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]I don't buy it... I don't see a such vast schism between conservatives and libertarian principles. [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]I understand the sentiment, but I see very few conservatives who remotely approach messianic tendencies (nor belligerent nationalism). How many conservatives bow down to a contemporary figure? Sure, they miss Reagan (as libertarians pine for Buckley). But striving to better ourselves, by studying the past, is hardly messianism.

Am I naive?
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[5.56'aholic]

i have never read a more misguided, inaccurate portrayal as this op-ed. He has confused, smeared, and out and out lied to string together current and past events to draw attention away from the true libertarian and instilled liberal qualities and tendencies into his creation of the "new" libertarian.

 

[MTC]

I don't buy it... I don't see a such vast schism between conservatives and libertarian principles. I understand the sentiment, but I see very few conservatives who remotely approach messianic tendencies (nor belligerent nationalism). How many conservatives bow down to a contemporary figure? Sure, they miss Reagan (as libertarians pine for Buckley). But striving to better ourselves, by studying the past, is hardly messianism.

Am I naive?

No, you're correct. And the author of that piece can start here...

There has never in my lifetime been a more urgent need for the party of liberty to completely secede from conventional thought and established institutions, especially those associated with all aspects of government, and undertake radical intellectual action on behalf of a third way that rejects the socialism of the left and the fascism of the right.

...by getting it through his head that there IS NO "left" and "right" wing. That's a phony spectrum invented by Soviet (international socialist) theorists
in the 1930's in order to distinguish themselves from Nazis (national socialists). As with a tape measure or a slide rule, when one engages in the science of politics, that is, the level of governmental power and control, there is only one true measuring scale. One that places zero government [control] -anarchy- on one end and total government [control] -oligarchy, dictatorship- on the other. The rest of it's just haggling over the details of comparative political systems.

 

[CulpeperMM]

- Overview of America - Public Service - DVD

good left vs. right clarification starting at 8:00

i recommend watching the entire 30min video when you have chance. (looks like MTC already has)

 

[Fletch]

I'd like to note that the article was written at the end of 2004, at the height of Bush's power, which may have something to do with the difference in perception around here.

Personally, I think he hit the nail on the head. Far too many "R" people are primarily concerned with ORDER above all things. The need to control, manage, and regulate infests both major parties pretty much equally. Power over others is the worst kind of evil, and it corrupts the souls of even those with the loftiest and most laudable goals.

 

[MTC]

- Overview of America - Public Service - DVD

Thanks so much for posting that! I was looking for it the other day but somehow couldn't find it. It's the most perfect synopsis I've ever seen.
Repped for valuable public service!

 

[SirRealism]

I'd like to note that the article was written at the end of 2004, at the height of Bush's power, which may have something to do with the difference in perception around here.

Personally, I think he hit the nail on the head. Far too many "R" people are primarily concerned with ORDER above all things. The need to control, manage, and regulate infests both major parties pretty much equally. Power over others is the worst kind of evil, and it corrupts the souls of even those with the loftiest and most laudable goals.

I understand what you're saying, and there are certainly heated discussions between libertarians and Republicans here on INGO... sometimes it even seems to point to philosophical differences at a very basic level. But I still maintain that most Republicans align more closely with libertarian principles than do their Democrat counterparts.

Regarding the corrupting tendency of power: I agree. And the nature of some people to support a party rather than individual candidates disappoints me.

My gut tells me that many Republicans who argue against some of Ron Paul's positions (for example) would still admit that we would benefit from having 100 more like him in the Senate and House. Or maybe that's just a projection of my own thoughts on others.

Also, messianic worship is in the eye of the beholder. That claim has been leveled at many RP supporters. I can only say this: It's sad if people get caught up in any cult of personality; yet it's also unfortunate if a candidate, who shares most voters' innate sense of liberty, isn't taken seriously because the voters have been progressively brainwashed into believing a nanny state is a higher form of society.

Wow, I feel like I used a bunch of words to say very little. That's probably my cue to get back to work.