So you're saying VCU is in a well?All these links with no explanation is like trying to understand Lassie.
So you're saying VCU is in a well?All these links with no explanation is like trying to understand Lassie.
Well, not only that. They have a broken leg and can't get out and there's a rattle snake in the well with them shaking it's tale at them. I mean. C'mon person.So you're saying VCU is in a well?
Business have been affected, movie theaters being one of them.Okay. Hold on. Here's where you're losing me. You seem to be taking the opposite extreme, that no businesses are being affected due to just covid, that if they go under during covid, they'd have gone under anyway. Kinda like the "only old people are dying; they'd have died anyway" argument.
My favorite theater is out of business and they were doing quite well financially before all this. They were making **** tons of money. Their business dried up immediately with shutdowns. It's fair to say that it was at least as much fear of covid keeping people away as it was being shut down for however many months that was. After restrictions lifted theaters all over opened, and many closed again because no one was going to theaters. But it does not sound to me like that's not what you're saying. I don't see how one can't acknowledge that covid has indeed prevented many businesses from doing any business, and that situation can't possibly be sustained long term by even solid businesses.
Business have been affected, movie theaters being one of them.
But BW has posted about a lot businesses that was going to go under even if there was no Covid Pandemic.
Fry's Electronics, they had no product to sell, every distributor had cut them off, and Fry's could not even convince them to work with them on a consignment basis.
This had happened well before Covid, just happen to close the doors during it, so let's blame Covid.
Stacked Pickle John's Famous Stews and Claddagh had obtained a debit ratio that was never going to be overcome unless someone like Marcus Lemonis came along and infused a metric ton of money to re-float ship.
John's was a combination of the passing of the owner and losing a LOT of their walk in business due to Lilly's (Across the street) moving their main campus 2 miles farther south on Kentucky Ave, and IPL/AES (next door) consolidated a lot of their operations out of state. Both well before Covid.
I have never said that businesses have not been affected or closed because of Covid. I have railed about businesses that are being lumped in with legitimate closings.
There is a difference, and it is a slap in the face to every business owner who had to close because of Covid.
Mismanagement and bad decisions are preventable, closing because of Pandemic is not.
Well BW, here's the thing, not really guessing. 31 years in the alcoholic beverage field as a salesman, driver and some other functions, I still have a TON of people that I know.Let's just rewind and see. Would there be any business closures when you take the scamdemic lockdowns away?
Probably, but since it's not possible to take the lockdowns away, YOU cannot really know. Since YOU cannot provide closed businesses with customers, employees and revenue that was forcibly taken away by government overreach to evaluate YOU cannot actually know.
YOU may be correct in that a business or even a few may well have been on the precipice of failure. Sadly though, YOU are guessing.
Your argument is along the same lines as being a little pregnant. Pregnant is pregnant and business closed is business closed.
Well BW, here's the thing, not really guessing. 31 years in the alcoholic beverage field as a salesman, driver and some other functions, I still have a TON of people that I know.... ...blah, blah, blah
None of that matters. The minute the government locked down the business' ability to control their own fate through their own action is the minute government assumed all responsibility.
You can't reel back in the government lockdown to figure if your speculations are true or not.
Simple as that.
Well said Jamil, well said.A lot of the "scamdemic" skeptics like to say, well, it's just hitting the elderly and people with preexisting conditions, so they probably died from those other conditions. They were close to death anyway. Isn't IB's argument very similar to that? Those businesses were close to death anyway. And there's some truth to that. You post as if you're certain that but for the lockdowns those businesses would remain. Okay, so you come across a guy who has a likelihood of knowing some inside information about the financial state of some of these businesses. Yet you maintain the certainty.
And then when you have to acknowledge that he probably knows more about why they had to quit than you do, you break out the "none of that matters". Well. If you come across a dying animal in the forest and you shoot it, it doesn't matter how it got to that point, you're the one who killed it. That's kinda your argument here.
I'll give you this though. It's at least a little true, but so is IB's argument. Forcing those failing businesses to lock down was probably what did them in. But to IB's point they were on their way out anyway. So it's not that the government bears all the responsibility for the failed buinesses, but to the extent that they finished it off they are responsible for that. Unless you think the dying animal in the forest would have lived a long life. Probably those failing business owners played the lottery. They could have won and saved their business.
Annnnd here we go again with more of the5 Indianapolis businesses we've said goodbye to during the coronavirus pandemic
These retail businesses have closed in Indianapolis in 2020 and 2021. They include electronics, toys, video and crafts stores.www.indystar.com
Not to drift the thread too much, but you don't need much capital to start a lawn mowing business. All you need to get started is a lawnmower and a quarter gallon of gas. I had my own lawn cutting business when I was 10.Last summer I was thinking of trying to start a lawn mowing business since my health has prevented me from working a traditional job.
Since I didn't have enough finances
Well it's little more that. Trying to push mowing a 1 acre lot when you can't walk too great post stroke is not a option, and besides when was the last time you push mowed 1 acre and how long did it take you? I can give a hint, 17 years ago (when I was 42) before my ZTR was delivered, I had to push mow my 1.2 acre lot, self propelled mower on the highest speed I could cut the grass good, took 3 hours. I've mowed my yard in less than 30 minutes with my now in-repairable ZTR.Not to drift the thread too much, but you don't need much capital to start a lawn mowing business. All you need to get started is a lawnmower and a quarter gallon of gas. I had my own lawn cutting business when I was 10.
Don't we have other threads for that? And isn't it already post it?Mask mandate, capacity restrictions will remain in Marion County past April 6
INDIANAPOLIS (WISH) — The mask mandate and capacity restrictions will continue in Marion County until the current public health order is rescinded or superseded, Indianapolis Mayor Joe Hogsett announced Thursday. “We will continue to exercise the local authority granted to us by the state to...www.wishtv.com
Yes and yes.Don't we have other threads for that? And isn't it already post it?