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  • melensdad

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    Good, at least someone finally admits that Obama isn't the root of this mess we're in now. . . .
    Nice bit of revisionist history you make in your post. You tend to weave the truth into your story, but you miss many points of fact or you mistake many bits where you lay blame.

    First off, if you read these forums you will see that a LOT of members didn't like Bush's policies as he was not a conservative. Secondly, many of us here did not like the bail outs that were started under him and, if McCain would have been elected it is likely he would have followed this path as well, but I suppose you also think he is conservative?

    Just because conservatives got behind a man does not mean that the man was one of them. You paint a way too broad picture of the term conservative and interlace SOCIAL and FISCAL conservatives into one monolithic group. We are not. True conservatives are much more libertarian in their beliefs and tend to shy away from the SOCIAL conservatives but there is no question that the two groups tend to vote for the same candidates. Just like the animal rights people and the anti-gun people tend to vote together, support the same candidates and generally are both left leaning liberals. . . but that does not make them the same.

    There were countless times that true conservatives dismissed Bush as a NEO-con. The term NEO-conservative was commonly used to describe his term, policies, staff, etc.

    As for voting for him the second time, you need to go back and look to see who else was running. There was no conservative on the ticket. It was him or a wild eyed liberal. In the case of Obama-McCain it was 2 wild eye liberals running side by side.

    Clinton's administration, and the congress at the time, however you want to portray it, brought us to this dance we are in with the housing/banking/economic crisis. The evidence is all over Congress and Clinton for this mess. Dig up the Community Reinvestment Act and the people and policies behind it. That is the seed that grew into this whole financial collapse.

    You claim you don't need a history lesson but in fact the way you portray your very very selective view of history, its clear you do need to review the facts.
     

    rambone

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    As for voting for him the second time, you need to go back and look to see who else was running. There was no conservative on the ticket. It was him or a wild eyed liberal. In the case of Obama-McCain it was 2 wild eye liberals running side by side.

    Ditto. Bush was an easy choice when stood next to John Kerry. Just with our common belief in the 2nd Amendment you should understand that.

    But Comrade Obama... he is so socialist he makes Chavez and Castro blush.
     
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