Snopes has to do a 180 about Elon Musk's Starlink being involved in the Submarine Loss

[actaeon277]

Community Notes & Elon Musk vs. Snopes (guess which one backpedaled)

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So, the surface support vessel used starlink.
But starlink had NOTHING to do with the sub.
Cause...
RADIO WAVES DON'T WORK UNDERWATER.

Until you get to the ELF range, and those DON'T WORK FOR SATELLITES.
DUH!

But that doesn't stop the uninformed.

 

[radar8756]

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RADIO WAVES DON'T WORK UNDERWATER.

To create an antenna powerful enough to reach any submarine on Earth, plans called for a grid of cables 6,000 miles long — and to protect them from potential Soviet nuclear attacks, they'd all be buried six feet underground.

 

[actaeon277]

To create an antenna powerful enough to reach any submarine on Earth, plans called for a grid of cables 6,000 miles long — and to protect them from potential Soviet nuclear attacks, they'd all be buried six feet underground.

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And the transmitting freq is ELF.
Basically it can send codes, such as, come to periscope depth to receive radio traffic.

 

[2tonic]

They spelled "Dopes" wrong.

 

[2tonic]

To create an antenna powerful enough to reach any submarine on Earth, plans called for a grid of cables 6,000 miles long — and to protect them from potential Soviet nuclear attacks, they'd all be buried six feet underground.

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Just asking.....wouldn't they have to be more than 6 feet deep to prevent destruction via a nuclear device?
Maybe closer to 800~1000 feet?

I've seen an ELF antennae array in Upper Michigan, not sure of it's purpose there, unless it can reach the Atlantic, or it's in case Canada goes wobbly.
But as long as I'm here asking, have US submarines ever operated in the Great Lakes? Certainly they can gain access through the locks, just like the large freighters, but aside from possible training scenarios, or museum delivery (how did the U-boat at the Museum of Science and Industry get there?) did they ever conduct combat patrols (mebbe WW2 or a missle sub safe from enemy torpedoes)?

@actaeon277 , any idea?

 

[actaeon277]

How a Nazi U-Boat and Its Enigma Machine Ended Up in a Chicago Museum - Articles by MagellanTV

Capturing the Nazis' U-505 and its Enigma machine took great courage, and some luck. A Chicago museum saved it again with two colossal feats of engineering.

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[actaeon277]

submarine – Military History of the Upper Great Lakes

 

[Creedmoor]

And the transmitting freq is ELF.
Basically it can send codes, such as, come to periscope depth to receive radio traffic.

As a Maryland kid, across the Severn River from the Naval Academy is David Taylor Research, Marine Barracks with a 100 yd range, a few other things and until 1999 builds and nineteen towers stood on that property that were built in 1941 for ship & submarine communications. They left three of the towers as landmarks when they were scrapped. Down in Calvert Co Md there is more modern Navy communication buildings and antennas.

 

[Cameramonkey]

Just asking.....wouldn't they have to be more than 6 feet deep to prevent destruction via a nuclear device?
Maybe closer to 800~1000 feet?

I've seen an ELF antennae array in Upper Michigan, not sure of it's purpose there, unless it can reach the Atlantic, or it's in case Canada goes wobbly.
But as long as I'm here asking, have US submarines ever operated in the Great Lakes? Certainly they can gain access through the locks, just like the large freighters, but aside from possible training scenarios, or museum delivery (how did the U-boat at the Museum of Science and Industry get there?) did they ever conduct combat patrols (mebbe WW2 or a missle sub safe from enemy torpedoes)?

@actaeon277 , any idea?

6' is plenty deep. Except for a direct hit. But those typically dont happen as they air burst them for maximum efficiency. The blast will parallel the ground, and wont even begin to disturb something 6' under.

Those ELFs dont have to be near water as I recall.