SHTF gun???

[Colt556]

The AR and AK have proven themselves on many a battlefield. Take which ever one you're more proficient with and have the most ammo for. The AK is pretty sturdy but I'm grabbin an M4 and my M1A. My 1911 will be on my hip.

 

[swatdoc]

The AR vs. AK debate is age-old. Start with a good Wiki entry on the topic here: Comparison of the AK-47 and M16

When you're done with that consider your needs in specific and the conclusions you've drawn from an assessment of your personal situation. Then, and most importantly, pick one or the other and train with it extensively and exhaustively and don't look back.

 

[agentl074]

Originally Posted by Richard
Your going to need more than an "assault rifle" if your going to venture into Detroit city limits post-SHTF.

A M60 or M240B aint even going to help you.... Gotta get armor first! Good armor - ballistic helmet, Level IV vest and get tactical training! Heck ... might even throw in an uparmored humvee and a tactical fire team!

 

[hotfarmboy1]

well I'd prob have my SKS and so far 4 20 rd tapco mags, with my mossberg maverick 88 with 7+1 cap 12 ga on my back in a scabbard, my G30 on my hip with 2 13 rd mags and 2 10 rd mags on me, along with my CZ-52 in a shoulder holster with 3 spare mags. If I need long range I'd prob reach for my 30-06 mauser, or my K98 mauser.

 

[tyler34]

A buddy is not a force multiplier. Artillery is a force multiplier!

you obviously don't know my buddies

 

[jeremy]

Most buddies are... Force Enablers and not in a good way. More like in the here hold my beer and check this sh*t out way!

 

[RealtorWhoCarries]

Wow! I realize that that sounds like I'm gonna be killing LEO's and NG's. I'm not. But they will be on the frontline of any SHTF scenario as will there bodies and gear. Never leave a man behind only applies if there is somewhere to be extracted to.

What is Leo and Ng? thanks

 

[RealtorWhoCarries]

SHTF/war in a city environment? Shotgun. It's ammo flexibility covers all the needs you are likely to encounter.

What's the best shot size for home defense?thanks

 

[Richard]

What's the best shot size for home defense?thanks

Steve,

I keep my HD shotgun (Mossberg 590) loaded with 00 buck.

 

[Bill of Rights]

What is Leo and Ng? thanks

LEO=Law Enforcement Officer

NG=National Guard

 

[Bill of Rights]

The AR vs. AK debate is age-old. Start with a good Wiki entry on the topic here: Comparison of the AK-47 and M16

When you're done with that consider your needs in specific and the conclusions you've drawn from an assessment of your personal situation. Then, and most importantly, pick one or the other and train with it extensively and exhaustively and don't look back.

AR or AK? Feh.

Humorous Comparison of an AK47, an AR15 and a Mosin

Mosin, FTW!

Blessings,
Bill

 

[mikea46996]

Your going to need more than an "assault rifle" if your going to venture into Detroit city limits post-SHTF.

I was going to say that and suggest an armored division with air support.

 

[Joe Williams]

What's the best shot size for home defense?thanks

Personally I like Number 4 or 3 buck, simply for the reduced penetration in walls and such, while still providing adequate penetration against bad guys. 00 buck is the most popular though, I'd wager.

 

[swatdoc]

This is a great site that explores a number of these questions. Think of it as MythBusters for ballistics!

They answer the question of shotgun loads penetrating drywall in this chapter: The Box O' Truth #3 - The Shotgun Meets the Box O' Truth - Page 1

If the load is effective against a human aggressor, it will penetrate at least two sheets of drywall (one interior wall).

 

[RealtorWhoCarries]

Thank you all for the input. What a great place to get educated

 

[RealtorWhoCarries]

This is a great site that explores a number of these questions. Think of it as MythBusters for ballistics!

They answer the question of shotgun loads penetrating drywall in this chapter: The Box O' Truth #3 - The Shotgun Meets the Box O' Truth - Page 1

If the load is effective against a human aggressor, it will penetrate at least two sheets of drywall (one interior wall).

This is an awsome link for anyone who wants to get educated on what shot is best for what task..Thanks Swatdoc!

 

[Mauser-K98]

Anything Glock

 

[IndianaWoodsman]

Anything Hi-point!

 

[jmiller676]

anything loaded and in my hands

 

[darrent]

In a SHTF scenario, I would recommend a Glock .40 pistol (with a 9mm conversion barrel). That would allow you to shoot both of the most popular calibers out there. It's not the most accurate pistol, but parts are cheap and it is easy to repair.

For a rifle, either the AK or AR (or their variants) will work just fine. For survival, I am partial to the AK. Having been on the receiving end of this weapon, I quickly learned to respect it. I saw an AK that was rusted, with a magazine covered in rust, fire rusted bullets without any problem. It doesn't get much better than that for reliability. I also saw a M16 jam with a little bit of sand in a firefight. If you choose the AR, just make sure to pack a cleaning kit and maintain it regularly while in the field.

If you choose to go with the AK, then purchase some cheap 7.62x39 rifles to go with it (like the SKS). If you go with the AR, then look towards cheap .223 rifles (ex. mini-14). This way you just add a few extra round to your regular caliber cache. Most likely your neighbors/other family members will not be prepared. You will need their help establishing and securing a parameter.