Russia vs. Ukraine Part 2

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[BigMoose]

The Russians have put more mines out then, can honestly be believed.. it may have been their entire soviet era stockpile..

Losses are high, on both sides.. but the Ukranians are moving forward.

This is the kind of war the west isn't familiar with and haven't seen since Korea/WW2.
Where casualties are an accepted fact of achieving goals. I am not talking about human wave attacks here, more along the type of sacrifices it takes to get a tough goal. Like the beaches and clifts of Normandy... These Russian minefields will need to the breached.
It will take time to get through these defenses..

 

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Possible coup attempt...

Putin in crisis as Wagner chief Prigozhin declares war on Russian military leadership

Russia’s FSB security service opens criminal case against mercenary boss.

www.politico.eu

Prigozhin Charged With 'Inciting Armed Revolt' After Vowing to Stop 'Evil' Military Leadership - The Moscow Times

The head of Russia’s Wagner mercenary group Yevgeny Prigozhin was charged with “inciting an armed uprising” and military vehicles were deployed to the streets of Moscow and Rostov-on-Don after he made an extraordinary threat to “stop” Russia’s top military brass.

www.themoscowtimes.com

 

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[Wolfhound]

Can we immediately send Biden, Harris and Clinton to Russia to form a human chain in front of this convoy? It’s the only way to stop it.

 

[BigMoose]

Its early yet. We will see where this leads. But a coup/civil war might be the break Ukraine needs.

Too early to get optimistic though.

 

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[BigMoose]

Okay that isn't a small number, but it isn't a large number ether.

This is more like a civil war, then a coup though.

 

[KG1]

Seems kind of weird. The head of the Wagner group was complaining about Moscow not giving his fighters sufficient support logistical and otherwise but now who does he expect to give him that support to take on Russia?

 

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[KG1]

Some more background info.

 

[snapping turtle]

Well the prisoners will soon be running the prison.

 

[KG1]

 

[1DOWN4UP]

Special Report: Emergency Situation as Prigozhin Goes Nuclear Option

Heavy things are afoot. I had been busy writing my next unrelated report, when this major situation interrupted, forcing me to delay the regularly scheduled report in order to address the alarming developments. Prigozhin appears to have initiated a coup attempt. Information is still developing...

simplicius76.substack.com

Is this a CI A Hail Mary?[/URL]

 

[KellyinAvon]

Bold and underlined below is my emphasis. If everyone thinks he took the city, did he take the city? Did he take the city and the newsies are saying they were hacked and he really didn't (from an earlier post)??

Is this guy going for the top job in Russia? It looks like his beef is with the Rooskie SECDEF equivelant but why not go for the chair at the head of the table? There's not historic tradition in Russia of voting for your elected officials. It does have a historic tradition of repressing the **** out of the people.

On top of that, I have to think Putin's favorable ratings are lower than Biden's are when polling only people who both own firearms and attend monster truck rallies. That is in Russia. Putin doesn't have a lot of friends around the world at this point. Xi threw in with the Taliban as soon as we bugged out of the 'stan. He probably doesn't care which top Redsky he deals with.

The Wagner Group ESOBIC (Evil Son Of a ***** In Charge) : Is he: (a) Better than Putin; (b) Worse than Putin; (c) About the same as Putin; (d) We better kill the ESOBIC before he gets the launch codes; or (e) We'd be better off with the Merchant of Death in charge.
In the video, he claimed that his forces had taken control of military facilities in Rostov-on-Don, including the air field. Other videos posted on social media showed military vehicles and tanks on the streets.

It was not immediately clear how he entered the city, which is under heightened security following Prigozhin's threat, or how many troops he brought with him.

Despite Wagner playing a crucial role in Russia's invasion of Ukraine, Prigozhin has been feuding with the defense ministry, accusing Russian military officials of starving his troops of weapons and ammunition.

In a series of angry video and audio recordings on Friday, Prigozhin accused Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu of ordering a rocket strike on the private military contractor's field camps where the group is fighting on behalf of Russia in Ukraine.

"This is not a military coup, but a march of justice," Prigozhin declared. "The evil embodied by the country’s military leadership must be stopped."

Prigozhin then referred to Shoigu as "scum" and said he "will be stopped."

Russian mercenary chief says his troops have reached Rostov-on-Don following call for armed rebellion

The owner of the Wagner private military contractor who called for an armed rebellion to oust Russia's defense minister said he and his troops reached Rostov-on-Don.

www.foxnews.com

 

[1DOWN4UP]

MoA - The Ukrainian Counter-Offensive Had No Chance. NATO Failed To Explain That.

 

[Leadeye]

I wonder if the Russian checks are bouncing. Historically mercs became a problem if they were not paid.

 

[1DOWN4UP]

I am worried of a False Flag that these Warmongers will take advantage of and throw us right in to this meatgrinder. With the MSM/GovtPropaganda machines track record,I believe nothing coming out of Washington.
This statement NOT brought to you by PFIZER.

 

[Wolfhound]

If I was currently Russian cannon fodder (I mean conscript) I would like my chances in a Russian coup more than my chances on the front line.

If the coup fails then they would just send me to the front as cannon fodder anyway. Providing I survive the coup.

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]